You've obviously not had bt run out/break on a long journey.
No, I buy decent quality stuff. Tbf, wired can break too. Never had an issue that I can remember and Timehop recently reminded me I've been using Bluetooth for audio for over 4 years now.
You've obviously not had bt run out/break on a long journey.
I guess that's what their market research shows - but exclusively having BT does happily reduce phone costs, rather than having expensive/shielded codecs in the BOM.
moreover - I would rather have a better quality Bluetooth camera, with the phone, rather than the even bigger compromise of trying to fit optics in the thin body ...
No, I buy decent quality stuff. Tbf, wired can break too. Never had an issue that I can remember and Timehop recently reminded me I've been using Bluetooth for audio for over 4 years now.
It's funny though isn't it, because this fascination of trying to hold on to a 3.5mm jack makes me laugh a little. BT is much simpler too...
Battery life is sufficiently long.
Why does the phone orientation matter when it's in your pocket?![]()
My post said shirt pocket. If it buzzes from a txt or a WhatsApp, I'd want to pull it out and see it the right way up.
Not relevant, but before I used phones for music, my MP3 players had top-facing jacks as well.
yup...Surely having top down in a shirt pocket makes it more natural to pull out right way up?

How long does the battery last?!
BT has its place but it isn't an all around replacement for the use case of some simple headphones and a 3.5mm jack.
Doubt this for many people.
Can I ask why? For me (not an audiophile) I can't tell a difference and they are actually easier and more simple to use. Being in the gym or cycling with a cable swinging about the place would be really annoying for me. In fact, I can remember using cables years back in the gym and they would also be catching on something. Very annoying.
if I'm doing a repetitive task for a few hours at work for instance I can just grab them without having to worry about whether I remembered to charge them.

My counter argument (again, I don't mean to argue of course) to that would be, almost all totally wireless buds these days come in a charging case... so they're always charged. Just remember once a week to charge the case and you'll be good to go.![]()

that's the point though- people forget and they are stuck with no headphones
I have some Bose QC25s with my S10 and i'm not looking to move to wireless just yet.
) so maybe it's just about... routines? At the end of the night, I plug my phone in and I think about what else might need to charge. My mouse, my gaming headset, the Sony XM3's, my Jabra's or my Aftershokz... As they all last a week or more, there's almost never more than one other thing charging, but I can't remember ever being caught out.To put simply, wired headphones just work and always good to go.
quick check in amazon , neither the first nor last mention aptx codec support, and I would be after either that or AAC, rather than a potential, default, 128Kb/s mp3.For the gym I use Jabra Elite Sport. I think they will last 3 or 4 hours, I just need 1½ hours from them. The case will charge them 3 or 4 times. I get a light for each bud and the case being either red, amber or green so I know when to recharge the case. Usually I need to charge the case once every 3 or 4 weeks.
For cycling I use AfterShokz Trekz Air which also have 3 or 4 hours I think. I usually charge these every other ride or after a long ride.
For TV and if I'm going on the tube I use Sony WH1000XM3's which last for 30 hours. A press of a button gives me a % battery level. I charge these every couple of weeks.
quick check in amazon , neither the first nor last mention aptx codec support, and I would be after either that or AAC, rather than a potential, default, 128Kb/s mp3.
For me that's not a good reason. (Aside the fact it applies to all my BT headphones thus far) There would be loads of advances we wouldn't make if we lived by that all the time. 'This is good, lets not develop new tech'.
I don't see how the existence of 3.5mm jack was hampering Bluetooth audio, there were some excellent wireless headphones before people were getting forced to shell out for something they didn't particularly need. This really wasn't a technological push, just turning us into a bigger cashcows who were already paying huge premiums on our phones.
I don't think the removal of 3.5mm has anything to do with hampering BT audio. Why would it? I think it must cause issues with other parts of phone design of which I honestly don't know enough to be able to comment on.
I don't believe at all the reasoning it's to push sales of headphones. Seems an odd theory to me. Won't they lose wired headphones sales at the same time? Who's to say who's brand you would buy etc. I just think it's technological progression.
Anyway, we'll probably go round and round at this point and people are now posting with emotion (grinding gears and all, I was honestly trying to avoid an argument) so I'll bow out. Good chat though.