I've noticed that the first gen of Threadriper such as the 1920X has fallen to a really good point. X399 motherboards are also looking OK value against X570. It's actually quite tempting if your're not only playing games. Anyone else thinking about this direction instead?
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Thread ripper 1920x and X399 looking interesting against latest Ryzen and X570
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Nope. Lower clock than 3900, lower boost than 3900, no PCI-E 4 support, and AM4 has another upgrade left in it. Zen 2 smarter choice now.
Even the 2920X is a good deal slower than than the 900X.
Even the 2920X is a good deal slower than than the 900X.
All very true. But as motherboard prices are similar then the comparison falls to the CPU price. 1920X and 3900X are both 12/24 parts. There appears to be a 25% performance advantage to the 3900X. But the 3900X is double the price (£240 vs £500). So only 25% performance increase for a 100% increase in price.
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Yeah, I can see your point on the price. It’s all down to budget and preference I suppose. If you can’t splash the cash then the TR is a good choice, but if you do have the money to make the choice, then it’s zen 2 all the way for me. Plus, for home users who care about electric consumption and heat, the 3900 is a far more efficient CPU. 105w v 180w.
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but in your use case will the 1920X do the job needed well?, if your into production of any type the 25% faster CPU is the one because time is money and it will pay for its self over time.
Unless you really need features exclusive to TR, I would be tempted to choose the 3900. As mentioned, lower TDP, and don't really need a X570. But prices for the X570 will possibly be more competitive once B550 kicks in.
I wasn't too familiar with the TR before, and seems like 99% of the users who opted for it wasn't just based on core counting or CPU alone.
I wasn't too familiar with the TR before, and seems like 99% of the users who opted for it wasn't just based on core counting or CPU alone.
This is a common argument that comes around fairly often in varying guises.
The real thing is to look at your use case and determine what trade offs you are prepared to make.
The real question I would ask is whether more cores or more performance per core is the most important.
Unless you need the 60 PCIe lanes of X399, I might be tempted within that budget to go for a 3700X and X470. Multi core performance is largely similar, but single core performance is massively better.
See comparison https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2126?vs=2520
The real thing is to look at your use case and determine what trade offs you are prepared to make.
The real question I would ask is whether more cores or more performance per core is the most important.
Unless you need the 60 PCIe lanes of X399, I might be tempted within that budget to go for a 3700X and X470. Multi core performance is largely similar, but single core performance is massively better.
See comparison https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2126?vs=2520
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TR4 has plenty of upgrades left.
I can't wait to see what the next iteration of Threadripper brings at the end of this year.
But then, the comparison wouldn't be valid. The TR mentioned is cheaper now because the next gen is around the corner, but new models will likely be more expensive. Again, a good platform, but for my use, for example, can't justify. The same reason why couldn't justify the 3900 either. 3600 and RTX 2080 is pretty balanced for now.
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I wasn't saying that the 2920x made sense at the moment (I don't think it does), only that TR4 also has upgrades coming and that the next Threadripper will be epic (pun intended)
You have to add the extra motherboard and memory cost.
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He did, he says motherboard's cost the same and also the memory costs the same
Memory will be the same. In fact it might be less as I'd get a 4x8gb pack instead of 2x16gb due to having quad channel memory on the TR4. A cursory look shows that motherboard costs are similar between TR4 and X570. Obviously I could save money by getting a B450 or X470 though.
Several competitors are selling them for around £240. I obviously can't say who on this forum. Yes a 2920x is faster but at that price point it makes sense to simply go for an X570 based system.
I doubt I'll get a 1920x but it's an interesting prospect if gaming isn't a priority.