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The Official Intel Ice Lake CPU

Praz94 said:
I didnt even think it was possible to lose clock speed while decreasing the nm size? I thought at the bare minimum it would stay the same, really surprised me to see than clockspeeds are lower
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the problem is that have pushed 14nm+++++(+++) to the very limit, so when they go to 10nm there will be a drop in clocks until they start to refine it like that have with 14nm, if this was skylake to icelake then it will be a good jump in performance.
 
MaXxBoulton said:
the problem is that have pushed 14nm+++++(+++) to the very limit, so when they go to 10nm there will be a drop in clocks until they start to refine it like that have with 14nm, if this was skylake to icelake then it will be a good jump in performance.
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Makes sense!

Still though, with all the refining of 14nm, I thought moving over to 10nm using similar refinement would have been similar but I guess not. If you think about it, it makes what AMD have done even more impressive.
 
Hades said:
Agreed. I wanted to read their article but not enough to agree to everything with no opt out. So I closed the tab without reading it.
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Same. I didn't even get as far as the Engadget page.

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No ta. Pretty much my attitude to new Intel CPUs as well, tbf. :p
 
Praz94 said:
Makes sense!

Still though, with all the refining of 14nm, I thought moving over to 10nm using similar refinement would have been similar but I guess not. If you think about it, it makes what AMD have done even more impressive.
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Intel had a problem with silicon quality, I think this will be one of the reasons for the performance drop. I read somewear that Intel with use the same design as amd with a 10nm(or 7nm)core and 14nm i/o chip. But its something like 2021 before we get to see it
 
MaXxBoulton said:
Intel had a problem with silicon quality, I think this will be one of the reasons for the performance drop. I read somewear that Intel with use the same design as amd with a 10nm(or 7nm)core and 14nm i/o chip. But its something like 2021 before we get to see it
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damm really? what happened to INTEL?!?!?
 
~>Dg<~ said:
it doesnt matter if they faster than amd counter parts at 95 percent of everything in daily use. i dont get why people get so ate up about it.
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They are faster in just one specific use case (gaming) in daily use (unless your daily use is limited to gaming) surely they get absolutely demolished. These new ice lakes look like a net 0 gain to me. Massive clock deficit made up by higher ipc.

It matters to everybody amd and Intel fans included, intel need to remain relevant while they are being made to look silly and the way to do that isnt to re-hash an already maxed out and pushed arch.

Performance might be there but in the eyes of reviewers it's the same old skylake refresh and hardly worth covering.
 
jonneymendoza said:
damm really? what happened to INTEL?!?!?
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they got comfortable with doing nothing and having no competition, handing out 5% upgrades with each gen.
what AMD as done is good for both AMD and Intel fans because this will push them both to battle again.

AND prices are coming down ;), i just got a 6 core i5 for the cost of a Kirby lake i3 (2c/4t). if intel have not been challenged it would have cost 30% more.
 
Praz94 said:
Was about to write something similar before I read this..

I didnt even think it was possible to lose clock speed while decreasing the nm size? I thought at the bare minimum it would stay the same, really surprised me to see than clockspeeds are lower
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Actually losing clockspeed is very common with a new node
 
MaXxBoulton said:
they got comfortable with doing nothing and having no competition, handing out 5% upgrades with each gen.
what AMD as done is good for both AMD and Intel fans because this will push them both to battle again.

AND prices are coming down ;), i just got a 6 core i5 for the cost of a Kirby lake i3 (2c/4t). if intel have not been challenged it would have cost 30% more.
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Do AMD have there 6/8 core desktpop cpu's in laptops now? All i see is intel offerings :(
 
Vince said:
They are faster in just one specific use case (gaming) in daily use (unless your daily use is limited to gaming) surely they get absolutely demolished. These new ice lakes look like a net 0 gain to me. Massive clock deficit made up by higher ipc.

It matters to everybody amd and Intel fans included, intel need to remain relevant while they are being made to look silly and the way to do that isnt to re-hash an already maxed out and pushed arch.

Performance might be there but in the eyes of reviewers it's the same old skylake refresh and hardly worth covering.
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But how much faster are they for gaming because you know that GPU'S make the largest difference for gaming and not the CPU especially at 1080p+ resolutions
 
Do people care about mobile cpu's that much?

Also from what ive heard, AMD are working hard on their 7nm mobile chips so it should be some good competition in that market at least.
 
Grim5 said:
Surprisingly no, Intel has the full market share for laptops.
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That’s to do with integrated graphics at the budget end on the Intel offerings.

Are AMD due to release new 3### APU’s? That’s when they stand to gain market share on laptops.
 
If amd make a mobile cpu with an 8 core chiplet and a gpu chiplet in it it'll make for some great gaming laptops.
 
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