Ships under attack in the middle east

robfosters · 4 Aug 2019 at 11:28

Oh just start the war now ffs, we can all see it’s coming, just get on with it.

Lord-Jaffa · 4 Aug 2019 at 11:34

US gets tired of paying for policing shipping lanes, asks others to step up, others ridicule the US over the issue and thumb their noses, orangemannmbad etc, Iran steps up piracy in the region with no one capable of stopping them now the US is pulling back.

Who ever could have seen this kind of thing coming!? Oh wait, I have posted it several times. I wonder how long till someone comes in here blaming the UK. 3...2...1...

stockhausen · 4 Aug 2019 at 13:45

Lord-Jaffa said:
US gets tired of paying for policing shipping lanes, asks others to step up, others ridicule the US over the issue and thumb their noses, orangemannmbad etc, Iran steps up piracy in the region with no one capable of stopping them now the US is pulling back.
. . .

America and to a lesser extent the UK make a fortune out of selling weapons and "expertise" to countries in the Middle East - perhaps they should think less about accumulating petrodollars by selling them trophies and sell them relevant weapons and expertise :confused:

RoboCod · 4 Aug 2019 at 17:50

stockhausen said:
America and to a lesser extent the UK make a fortune out of selling weapons and "expertise" to countries in the Middle East - perhaps they should think less about accumulating petrodollars by selling them trophies and sell them relevant weapons and expertise

What weapons and expertise would they be, in your opinion?

dowie · 5 Aug 2019 at 01:08

^^^ Odds on this new poster being a familiar person?

Hades · 5 Aug 2019 at 01:11

WinstonSmith said:
It was the British who seized ships first. So the Iranians should have done nothing in response? Piracy?

Strong "first" post.

Malevolence · 5 Aug 2019 at 01:15

WinstonSmith said:
It was the British who seized ships first. So the Iranians should have done nothing in response? Piracy?

You just can't stay away can you?

Rroff · 5 Aug 2019 at 01:17

Like a broken record.

dowie · 15 Aug 2019 at 12:14

US justice department has now requested the Iranian tanker is seized, just before it was likely due to be released by the UK/Gibraltar:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49355591

It was set to be released within hours, after the attorney general indicated he would make no further order for its detention.

But after the US application the matter has been adjourned until 15:00 BST.

Gibraltar said the US application is based on a "number of allegations which are now being considered".

A government spokesman also confirmed that police proceedings against all four members of the crew, including the captain - an Indian national - had ended.

The crew's legal team told the BBC that police had said this was due to actions by the Iranian government, and that it was no longer in the public interest to proceed.

stockhausen · 15 Aug 2019 at 12:32

The US Department of Justice has made a last-minute request to the authorities in Gibraltar to halt the release of a seized Iranian supertanker.
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A spokesman for Gibraltar's government also confirmed that police proceedings against all four members of the crew, including the captain - an Indian national - had ended.

The crew's legal team told the BBC that police had said this was due to actions by the Iranian government, and that it was no longer in the public interest to proceed. (LINK)

This is going to be interesting - will Bonker Boris bend the knee to Agent Orange?

Dis86 · 15 Aug 2019 at 12:49

stockhausen said:
This is going to be interesting - will Bonker Boris bend the knee to Agent Orange?

It's a decision for the Gibraltarian courts and government.

Greebo · 15 Aug 2019 at 12:52

stockhausen said:
This is going to be interesting - will Bonker Boris bend the knee to Agent Orange?

Well if he wants a trade deal he will. Basically US have told BJ they want three things in exchange for a quick trade deal -

UK pulling out the Iran deal and applying sanctions
UK banning Huawei
UK supporting US with tariffs against China

Rroff · 15 Aug 2019 at 13:01

stockhausen said:
This is going to be interesting - will Bonker Boris bend the knee to Agent Orange?

That will be interesting I wonder what the grounds will be as I don't believe there are any unless the ship made subsequent attempts to continue onto its previous destination and that would be a bit woolly unless it re-entered EU waters in doing so.

stockhausen · 15 Aug 2019 at 16:06

A seized Iranian tanker held in Gibraltar is to be released, the local supreme court has ruled, despite a last-minute plea by the US authorities.

Good news; perhaps we in Great Britain can now get back to trying to work with Iran rather than against it.

dowie · 15 Aug 2019 at 16:11

Apparently it’s been released, so much for the conspiraloons earlier in the thread ranting about the UK being a puppet state.

Rroff · 15 Aug 2019 at 16:12

dowie said:
Apparently it’s been released, so much for the conspiraloons earlier in the thread ranting about the UK being a puppet state.

Fake news I'm sure.

Firestar_3x · 15 Aug 2019 at 16:14

Waiting for the argument about how this proves we detained the ship illegally.

dowie · 15 Aug 2019 at 16:34

stockhausen said:
A seized Iranian tanker held in Gibraltar is to be released, the local supreme court has ruled, despite a last-minute plea by the US authorities.

Good news; perhaps we in Great Britain can now get back to trying to work with Iran rather than against it.

That seems a bit backwards, it was Iran breaking the rules here.

Perhaps Iran can learn to work with the international community.

Minusorange · 15 Aug 2019 at 16:40

Now to see if Iran keep true to their written word

Also I presume they're going to release the Stena Impero now that we've released their ship ?

dowie · 15 Aug 2019 at 16:55

They might well do, but this isn’t a swap, the UK was willing to release the Iranian tanker before they even seized the UK flagged Scandinavian ship.

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