Looking for advice on first build

orbitalwalsh · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:07

@Deanoreido since myself and @tamzzy going ITX or use ITX Raven case and, yourself have come from a small console form factor

tamzzy also has the AORUS ITX board . also tamzzy- THEY HAVE USB 3.1 part!

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x TeamGroup 1TB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £109.99
1 x Samsung S27R750QEU 27" 2560x1440 VA 144Hz Professional/Gaming Space Saving Monitor= £329.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £319.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2*8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Kit= £119.99
1 x Gigabyte X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset Mini-ITX Motherboard= £226.99
1 x Silverstone Raven RVZ03B Mini-ITX HTPC Case - Black (SST-RVZ03B)= £79.99
1 x Silverstone SST-SX650-G SFX 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £105.95
1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £439.99
1 x Phanteks PH-TC12LS 120mm RGB Low Profile CPU Cooler= £44.99
1 x Silverstone USB3.1 I/O Panel (SST-G11310650-RT)= £18.95

Total: £1,814.94 (includes shipping: £18.12)

havent included costs of heatset and keyboards etc

Want to pump up costs- aorus 1440p- damn good monitor but heavy!

Matt_West_Mids · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:08

Deanoreido said:
Sorry, what alternative? I think you may have forgotten to link it haha!

Ah no sorry I'm on the look out aswell not seen anything similar!

Deanoreido · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:11

Matt_West_Mids said:
Ah no sorry I'm on the look out aswell not seen anything similar!

Ah fair fair, misunderstanding on my part sorry!

Hopefully we find an alternative.

Cheers

Plec · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:13

/off topic

orbitalwalsh said:
since myself going ITX,

@orbitalwalsh - we haven't come up with a name yet for what you're doing.

Synonyms we're toying with so far:

Nuts, bonkers, Heath Robinson on meth, loopdee-doo

/need to look at your sketch-up plans - make take a lunch break...

orbitalwalsh · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:15

Plec said:
@orbitalwalsh - we haven't come up with a name yet for what you're doing.

Synonyms we're toying with so far:

Nuts, bonkers, Heath Robinson on meth, loopdee-doo

/need to look at your sketch-up plans - make take a lunch break...

ah typo- ITX CASE.

Plec · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:16

orbitalwalsh said:
ah typo- ITX CASE.

Or, the square peg, round hole build.

^My favourite to date

orbitalwalsh · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:17

Plec said:
Or, the square peg, round hole build.

^My favourite to date

i even edited it with an oxford comma

gonna call it... Hemnes...

Plec · 16 Aug 2019 at 15:21

orbitalwalsh said:
gonna call it... Hemnes...

You can't name it after an Ikea range

I'll keep thinking (although, Square Peg, Round Hole is very apt

)

Matt_West_Mids · 16 Aug 2019 at 21:20

Deanoreido said:
Ah fair fair, misunderstanding on my part sorry!

Hopefully we find an alternative.

Cheers

Just saw this on here seems to be similar spec wise. ACER NITRO XV272UP

Deanoreido · 6 Sep 2019 at 19:42

Hi All.

eventually got the build complete and thank you to everyone here for the help, especially @Plec @orbitalwalsh and @tamzzy

Tamzzy will be glad to know I didn't go absolutely mad with the RGB on the build.. haha.

Only some slight issues when building:
- Need to buy a fan controller(recommendations???) the MOBO I got, most of the Fan headers are at the very bottom of the Motherboard, whereas most of my fans are top of my case. Need to buy some fan extension leads or a fan controller for these. Currently have 1 x fan on top plugged into the connecter for the X62, 1 x fan into a fan header, and 1 x fan plugged into the AIO_PUMP on the MOBO which means that it is just always on
- Graphics card seemed very very very awkward to slot into place even with 3 bays at the back removed, felt really iffy forcing it in, had to bend the two metal plates at back to fit into the case OK. Now fine.
- NZXT Cam software is literal aids. That is all.
- Behind Desk Cable Management - TO DO. Looking at possibly instlaling some sort of cable routing on the back of the desk though this is to come as currently in the middle of re-arranging the room etc.

Went for the following, which I know is a tad overkill for what I want but it sets me up for the future:

CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor £319.99

CPU Cooler
NZXT Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £136.21

Motherboard
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard £227.97

Memory
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £109.39

Storage
Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £63.99

Storage
Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £114.94

Video Card
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card £734.99

Case
Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case £62.98

Power Supply
Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply £80.00

Case Fan
be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM 140 mm Fan £18.00

Case Fan
hbe quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM 140 mm Fan £18.00

Case Fan
be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan £16.78

Monitor
Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £428.23

Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard £95.47

Mouse
Logitech G305 (Black) Wireless Optical Mouse £39.99

Headphones
Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset £78.98

Speakers
Logitech Z625 200 W 2.1 Channel Speakers £55.00
Total (Purchased): £2600.91

Build Images:

Deanoreido · 6 Sep 2019 at 19:45

Here's Firestrike Benchmark - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20332456

Here's Userbenchmark (managed to get a 75Mhz gpu core OC, 500 memory clock OC, Standard Precision Boost Drive (Game mode on AMD Ryzen Master)
- https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19822647

As you can see the RAM is lacking a little, is there anything I could do about that or would it not be worth it?

Matt_West_Mids · 6 Sep 2019 at 20:38

Looks quality mate I'm so jealous!

orbitalwalsh · 6 Sep 2019 at 20:54

Looks really good!

Handy hint for those with front AIO.

If you mount with fan in push, you need a fan with high static pressure or normally run at faster speeds. If you run it in pull, doesn't need to be so high , Al about amount of airflow it can shift

Not sure what nzxt stock fans are like, but personally with 2 Silent Wing 3s... I'd be swapping them over (if they are 140mm units )

tamzzy · 6 Sep 2019 at 21:02

Deanoreido said:
Storage
Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £63.99

Storage
Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £114.94

why

QLC nand is fine for a storage drive...i wouldn't use it as a main OS drive

tamzzy · 6 Sep 2019 at 21:03

Deanoreido said:
Need to buy a fan controller(recommendations???) the MOBO I got, most of the Fan headers are at the very bottom of the Motherboard, whereas most of my fans are top of my case. Need to buy some fan extension leads or a fan controller for these.

just use a cable extension

Deanoreido · 6 Sep 2019 at 22:05

tamzzy said:
why
QLC nand is fine for a storage drive...i wouldn't use it as a main OS drive

I saw it on deal at the time of buying, not noticed any issues at all with read/write speeds and/or windows startup. Is there a considerable difference to your average user?

orbitalwalsh said:
Looks really good!

Handy hint for those with front AIO.

If you mount with fan in push, you need a fan with high static pressure or normally run at faster speeds. If you run it in pull, doesn't need to be so high , Al about amount of airflow it can shift

Not sure what nzxt stock fans are like, but personally with 2 Silent Wing 3s... I'd be swapping them over (if they are 140mm units )

So just to confirm, you`d look to mount the fans on the opposite side?... i.e. in the inside side of the case? If so, how would this effect my other case fans orientation?

Thanks again,
Dean

Deanoreido · 6 Sep 2019 at 22:10

tamzzy said:
why
QLC nand is fine for a storage drive...i wouldn't use it as a main OS drive

Still within returns time scale atm, any recommendations on what'd be best for this then.. I'd probably keep the 1TB with games on it, and replace the 500GB one. Budget I'd say is max 110.

tamzzy · 6 Sep 2019 at 22:40

Deanoreido said:
Is there a considerable difference to your average user?

more about drive endurance. with windows swap files and constant read/writes - QLC doesn't have enough write endurance if you want to keep the drive for any length of time.
QLC: crucial p1 500gb = 200tb, 1tb = 400tb
TLC: sabrent rocket (1tb) = MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro = 1660tb
TLC: corsair mp 510 960gb = 1700tb
TLC: Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1tb = 640tb

Deanoreido · 6 Sep 2019 at 22:52

tamzzy said:
more about drive endurance. with windows swap files and constant read/writes - QLC doesn't have enough write endurance if you want to keep the drive for any length of time.
QLC: crucial p1 500gb = 200tb, 1tb = 400tb
TLC: sabrent rocket (1tb) = MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro = 1660tb
TLC: corsair mp 510 960gb = 1700tb
TLC: Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1tb = 640tb

fair enough, from the ones mentioned which would you choose?

tamzzy · 6 Sep 2019 at 23:02

I've got 2x mp510 960gb drives.
But sabrent rocket is best bang/buck right now...so I'd go for that if I had to buy again right now.
Only downside is that RMA for sabrent is the USA, rather than EU for Corsair, and Glasgow for crucial.
Also need to register to get the full 5 year warranty (not that hard to do).