Dismissed Over Dogs Death.......

Thekwango said:
I’d rather a snake with no emotions than a damn cat with fake ones. Horrid things fit for nothing other than feeding to the aforementioned snakes! :p
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Credibility in the gutter.

Nobody is going to take anything you say seriously ever again.

You are just wrong. On every conceivable level and all the inconceivable ones too. Even on levels that don't exist in any known reality you are wrong.

Wrong wrong wrong. La la la.

Cats > you and your damn kids. And your snake.
 
FoxEye said:
Credibility in the gutter.

Nobody is going to take anything you say seriously ever again.

You are just wrong. On every conceivable level and all the inconceivable ones too. Even on levels that don't exist in any known reality you are wrong.

Wrong wrong wrong. La la la.

Cats > you and your damn kids. And your snake.
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You’d love my ‘trouser’ snake and don’t you deny it! :p
 
If I lost a pet I would be utterly devastated, I’m a professional and I’ve worked hard on developing my career, but if one of my babies died I would not be coming into work that day; I wouldn’t be able.

She was honest about her loss, and I don’t think a day is unreasonable. However, it may have been the final straw for someone who’s employment record was poor. Who knows.

People mocking her for being upset about losing her job because it’s ‘just a Sandwhich shop’ or ‘part-time’ disgust me, not everyone is so fortunate.
 
WantoN said:
If I lost a pet I would be utterly devastated, I’m a professional and I’ve worked hard on developing my career, but if one of my babies died I would not be coming into work that day; I wouldn’t be able.

She was honest about her loss, and I don’t think a day is unreasonable. However, it may have been the final straw for someone who’s employment record was poor. Who knows.

People mocking her for being upset about losing her job because it’s ‘just a Sandwhich shop’ or ‘part-time’ disgust me, not everyone is so fortunate.
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Depends on the kind of job. In a skilled job employees have value and they aren't going to sack someone over one day, because replacing them and training them can take ages. In sandwhich shop they can just go to the job agency and get someone else straight away. So there's no room to take liberties.
 
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Nasher said:
Depends on the kind of job. In a skilled job employees have value and they aren't going to sack someone over one day, because replacing them and training them can take ages. In sandwhich shop they can just go to the job agency and get someone else straight away. So there's no room to take liberties.
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Any job still requires training, you can’t make a competent employee in a day. But you’re right to an extent.
 
Fluke? said:
You're either trying to be Billy Big B... Or just genuinely cold hearted. Either way you come across like a complete ****.
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I know he was probably being a tool but if you believe someone can get emotionally attached to their pet, then why not a goldfish? true they may not be able to lick your face or crap in your garden (I jest) but surely an emotional attachment can still be made?
 
A bond grows through closeness and affection. I wouldn’t argue against someone having a deep emotional bond with a goldfish, but I’ve had a number of pets, and the ones that you cuddle, that sleep in your bed and cry to be with you... losing them hurts the most, at least for me.
 
WantoN said:
A bond grows through closeness and affection. I wouldn’t argue against someone having a deep emotional bond with a goldfish, but I’ve had a number of pets, and the ones that you cuddle, that sleep in your bed and cry to be with you... losing them hurts the most, at least for me.
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that sounds reasonable, for you personally and indeed i'd probably be of the same opinion. this thread just got me wondering, ignoring the extreme opinions, where is an employer expected to draw the line if they allow employees time off to grieve for their pet. there'll be those out there who get equally as emotionally attached to their goldfish (or whatever pet) as you do to your more 'cuddly' pet (and I don't mean that in any way condescendingly)
so cats dogs etc - the cuddly ones, all good to have a day off, but goldfish/snakes/whatever are a hell no. that would be a nightmare for an employer to enforce, as someone jokingly posted - someone could just get a colony of ants and demand a day off as and when they feel like (extremely unlikely but i'm sure you know what I mean) if an employer permits time off for dealing with the death of a pet.

who's to say what one person feels for their pet?
 
Thekwango said:
who's to say what one person feels for their pet?
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Yep, that’s the issue. That’s why it should probably be a discretionary thing.

The problem being that uncaring corporations, unsympathetic managers, and immoral staff will always look to game the system.

As for most things, there’s probably not a perfect solution. Best bet imo is having a solid, fair company policy on the matter, and weeding out poor staff through the usual channels.
 
It isn’t a false assumption to state that any dog can act unpredictably, it is both naive and dangerous to think otherwise. My assumption is the other way around to what you state, you don’t know everything about how the dog will behave!

When people think the opposite, believe their bull terrier won’t hurt a fly, “they’re called the nanny dog innit” then it savages their toddler after they’ve left it in the room alone then this view is dangerous.

You walk a dog with a lead when not in the park etc... they can run off if they see something or get startled. You don’t leave a dog alone with a toddler or a baby.
 
ttaskmaster said:
So fully supporting my assertion that "Your false assumption is that you, or any given individual, knows everything about a dog"....
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No that isn’t my assumption. Again I’m stating you don’t know everything about a given dog!

It seems a bit pointless to asserting as false something I never claimed.

It seems like you’re confused and you actually agree with me.
 
Combat squirrel said:
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People who keep dogs outside in yards or cages need locking up.
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utter utter nonsense. I have read some out there comments on this forum before but this is up there with the best of them.
People who mistreat animals should be punished, but working dogs are perfectly happy in a well made kennel and like nothing more than running free outside and indeed keeping them inside could be seen as cruel for such an animal.

(and yes i have grown up with dogs, which were considered pets and part of the family but still lived outside for the most part. They were always well cared for and spoiled rotten, and were very happy).
 
ttaskmaster said:
Unpredicatibility is subjective and based on lack of knowledge on the part of the human.
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that's quite interesting. out of curiosity are you suggesting there are people out there who have studied dog behaviour sufficiently to be able to predict it's behaviour in any given circumstance? or is it not fair to say that dogs will always be unpredictable to us given that it would be impossible to study their behaviour to such a degree as to be fully able to predict it's behavior at any given time?
 
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