"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain."

[RxR]

In what other context is a victim of grievous assault required to subsidize the offender to the victim's persistent (life long) detriment?

As men, would we suffer that a satisfactory imposition were we the victim of it? Or if the victim were your mother, wife, fiancee or sister? Or daughter?

 

[dowie]

Dowie with the piping hot fresh takes once more. Data scientists

It is a serious issue - porn is like a third of internet traffic!

I'm blaming French Canadians for this one, maybe the ones working for a rather famous site are the ones responsible for all this silliness.

Perhaps they're rather into it themselves? Is the French Canadian population dwindling? Language under threat within Canada?

 

[dowie]

In what other context is a victim of grievous assault required to subsidize the offender to the victim's persistent (life long) detriment?

Eh? How is the victim subsidising the offender?

 

[FoxEye]

Eh? How is the victim subsidising the offender?

Perhaps he considers the fetus to be an accomplice?

 

[dowie]

Perhaps he considers the fetus to be an accomplice?

Ah, that's why he wants to kill it!

 

[RxR]

The subsidy is perhaps more evident should you try to reduce it to an absurdity in a weaker form:

There are no biological, economic, social or other costs in being forced to raise someone elses child. True or False?

Of course, the real world (overseas) context is more complex than the answer to the questions I asked, and the proposition above posed, I admit. For example, the higher order truth (in a mathematical functional sense) of political necessity of gaining the support of those you're with.

 

[G-MAN2004]

Hit us up with your fresh news my dude.

No, it's okay. I don't wish to read your sarcastic comments.

 

[Sankari]

Without incest we'd not be able to laugh at people from Alabama and, erm, Norfolk.

Not to mention a substantial proportion of Birmingham and the West Country.

 

[Caracus2k]

In what other context is a victim of grievous assault required to subsidize the offender to the victim's persistent (life long) detriment?

In what other context is a male victim of statutory rape or deception required to subsidize the offender to the victim's persistent (life long) detriment?

Oh but that's right if a man thr victim of a sexual assault or is outright deceived or exploited by a woman in the US, even as a 25 year old he still is on the hook for supporting any child that is the result of a crime or deception.....

So don't give me some misandrist BS about how it's only an issue for women that the state puts the interests of the child first.....

When Male Rape Victims Are Accountable for Child Support
The best interest of the child is still the court's number one priority.

When Shane Seyer was 12, he was sexually exploited by his 16-year-old babysitter Colleen Hermesmann. She became pregnant with Seyer’s child in 1989 and was charged with statutory rape shortly afterward. Instead of being convicted of rape, Hermesmann was declared a juvenile offender under the non-sexual offense of “contributing to child misconduct.” Seyer was subsequently court-ordered to pay child support.

As men, would we suffer that a satisfactory imposition were we the victim of it?

Well its seems, rather embarrassingly for your posed question, that the answer, in the US, is 'yes'.

This is of course to say nothing of the countless men deliberately deceived by a woman who told them she was on birth control when she wasn't in a deliberate ploy to initiate a pregnancy that was not wanted or expected by the father. With the men then having zero legal decision making rights re whether a child is brought to term.

 

[RxR]

Embarassing for the question? Not the questioner. I posed the hypothetical case of 'what if the shoe were on the other foot?', on a personal, not theoretical, level.

You lean on the same approach. At the most basic level its a more general question of 'if someone wrongs you or yours (irrespective of gender or issue), would you accept the loss without doing anything?

In more serious matters, I hear young Scots are advised differently. "Free first the life of him who says yours is over".

And yes, I agree, circumstances (contexts, locations) alter cases. We're the most complex of creatures perhaps - but isnt that good - we humor each other!