Would you sacrifice yourself for the nation?

Thekwango said:
And why do you think it didn’t?

That’s an utterly bonkers attitude to have. Nothing wrong with having a ‘don’t hit a woman mentality’ in the general sense but are you honestly trying to tell us if a woman attacked you you’d just stand there with a gormless grin on your face while she punched you?
What would you do if you saw a woman attack a man and he laid her out defending himself?
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It's 2019 I believe in equality,

I'll hit everyone if they hit me. Easy.

trollface
 
Cryogenic said:
Saw a heavily built man and woman in a car today screaming for her to get out at the top of his lungs and revving the engine, the car was also shaking but could not see anything physical. He then jumped out and shouted some more, stared at me and walked towards me then stopped at about 5 metres. He then jumped in the car and drove off before I had time to memorise the plate fully. Reported to the police in any case.

Should I have done more to challenge him in a quiet street, and potentially risk being shanked/beaten to a pulp risking potential death by a random stranger, or in this day and age is it ok to turn down a challenge for the sake of your family and children to live another day.

What would you do in similar circumstances? Fight or flight?
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You are being very coy about who they were... Ah, so that's why Boris hasn't taken his bint to G7, another row ;) The Guardian would have paid (very modestly, they're skint) for some footage or even a written appraisal of events.

Me? I am a fully paid up misogynist so would have supported the bloke's actions to hell and back, probably richly deserved of the woman ;)
 
Assuming a woman can't stand up for herself in a simple argument with their partner, and having to step in, is either misogynistic (assuming she needs a mans help) or just white knighting.

If someone is getting a pasting (whether it's a man or woman) then go and help. But reporting someone for raised voices is laughable.
 
Hades said:
So the you reported someone for shouting at a woman? Why, what offence had he committed?

Would you have reported it if a woman had shouted at a man? If not then why not?
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This is the bread and butter of the majority of DV related calls to the police. Whether it's in the street or neighbours hearing rowing couples. Sometimes it's how the police intervene in serious domestic abuse, sometimes it's not, but this is often how the police will get involved.
 
It worked for Boris.

The police need to stop taking trips to maccies around here and actually do some work. When I say that, I mean using their emergency siren to get there.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
This is the bread and butter of the majority of DV related calls to the police. Whether it's in the street or neighbours hearing rowing couples. Sometimes it's how the police intervene in serious domestic abuse, sometimes it's not, but this is often how the police will get involved.
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In your opinion is it right or wrong that people report it to the police when they hear raised voices at women?
 
Hades said:
In your opinion is it right or wrong that people report it to the police when they hear raised voices at women?
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Is it an emergency?

Does it feel like the situation could get heated or violent very soon? Is someone in immediate danger? Do you need support right away? If so, please call 999 now.
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From the MET page on ASB, it's entirely relative.
 
shouting doesn't always mean abuse, it might just be an argument. you'd have to hear the words, or the tones [ie one violent/angry, the other obviously frightened] to make that call.
 
wolfie138 said:
shouting doesn't always mean abuse, it might just be an argument. you'd have to hear the words, or the tones [ie one violent/angry, the other obviously frightened] to make that call.
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Indeed, that's why it's "suspected". You can't always hear the words or tones though.
 
Hades said:
In your opinion is it right or wrong that people report it to the police when they hear raised voices at women?
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Considering 2 women a week are murdered whilst in abusive relationships it's not overkill to report angry raised voices, especially as a vast number of domestic assaults are discovered from noise disturbances. As always, context rules.

Me and the wife never argue, let alone shout at each other, but my neighbours are forever having slanging matches at each other in the garden as it seems to be their thing. It's obvious nothing violent has been going on but it does grind my gears when I'm in the garden trying to read work reports and all I can hear is them going at it.

I grew up in a household where my parents always argued (or should I say my mum argued at my dad) and witnessed domestic abuse (mum on dad) I genuinely believe if I was born 25 years later the police would have been around every week and at least one of my parents would have been arrested. You never know what goes on behind closed doors
 
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Thecaferacer said:
Considering 2 women a week are murdered whilst in abusive relationships it's not overkill to report angry raised voices, especially as a vast number of domestic assaults are discovered from noise disturbances. As always, context rules.

Me and the wife never argue, let alone shout at each other, but my neighbours are forever having slanging matches at each other in the garden as it seems to be their thing. It's obvious nothing violent has been going on but it does grind my gears when I'm in the garden trying to read work reports and all I can hear is them going at it.

I grew up in a household where my parents always argued (loudly) and witnessed domestic abuse (mum on dad) I genuinely believe if I was born 25 years later the police would have been around every week and at least one of my parents would have been arrested.
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It's also worth noting that domestic abuse can be non-violent.
 
This case. Nah, the guy was shouting but for her to get away.

My neighbours BF was shouting at her late at night, I houghtt about calling the police but she sounded matter of fact in her talking and then all i could hear was him loudly crying. So, no not needed.
 
As they say, pick your battles. You did the right thing.

If you are not familiar or comfortable being in these situations, never get into an altercation with someone who looks like they are.

Generally winning a street fight requires you to apply more aggression than your opponent. It is rare your average man on the street is prepared for what a nutter with nothing to lose can offer up. These people can go from 0-100 and if you can't do the same you will be in serious trouble.

I've been in and around some violent altercations over the years and it's no joke. I know big lads that have suffered mentally long after the event even when they weren't that badly hurt and managed to successfully defend themselves.

We have police for a reason, sadly we need a lot more.
 
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