I'm scared I could break my 1080Ti... Any ideas?

[AiiR]

Any PCB bending = improper fitting

Sounds like it's dead or being shorted out.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Look at the link I posted. One of the screws doesn't has spring on it. I didn't have problems with taking the cooler off or uplugging connectors but always with screwing it back. I'm pretty sure I started screwing that screw without spring and I didn't know when to stop. Then I heard this strange sound and I saw PCB is bent a little. It didn't happen slowly because if it did I would stop screwing it but it happened immidiately. Propably if I started screwing from any other screw this would never happen. In my opinion if this cooler had 4 normal screws with springs like any other GPU that exists this woudn't happen. Instead has this strange design where if you start screwing the cooler from wrong screw you can damage the card. I still to this day don't know how this happened because I was really slow, careful and barely used any force when screwing it. It just bent and made strange noise... There are only these 4 screws holding entire cooler, it only cools GPU. Memory has it's own cooling plate and VRMs are cooled by individual heatsink with 4th little fan.

They usually can bend a fair amount to be honest. I have done so in the past with waterblocks which on occasion have been slightly curved. You get creaking noises.

Waterblocks don’t have spring screws either so I know the sound.

Personally I doubt it’s something you have done as it takes a lot of warpage to damage a card to the point of cracking the pcb.

Have you tried the card in another slot or another computer? To verify.

 

[patent122]

They usually can bend a fair amount to be honest. I have done so in the past with waterblocks which on occasion have been slightly curved. You get creaking noises.

Waterblocks don’t have spring screws either so I know the sound.

Personally I doubt it’s something you have done as it takes a lot of warpage to damage a card to the point of cracking the pcb.

Have you tried the card in another slot or another computer? To verify.

I tried in another slot and tried HDMI and DP but PC won't boot. I don't have other PC to test there

 

[patent122]

And I just had to change that thermal paste because for me 82-86 degrees with 2.8 slot cooler with fans running at 100% isn't normal... My friend has 1080Ti FE which is actually cooler than this card even on stock fan curve, with fan at 70% it's literally 10 degrees cooler if not more... I still don't understand how this could happen. I'm always careful when dealing with any kind of electronic, especially with computers. I just had overheating issues, I took the cooler off, changed thermal paste for Grizzly, then I had problems putting it back on due to that one stupid screw, then driver crashes for 1 week while running card at stock (worked fine at 1880Mhz/950mV) and yesterday it finally died. Even if I could somehow damage the PCB these issues still sounds strange. Device manager was syaing: This device is working properly, no error 43 etc...

 

[Thekwango]

i suppose it is possible that the card was on it's way out before you got it and your attempts are replacing the thermal paste were just coincidental and unrelated to it's premature death but there'll still be signs of you removing the cooler (warranty stickers etc?) so still likely they will/could reject the rma. all you can do is keep trying to contact them and hope for the best. have you had it apart again and refitted the cooler since it began?

what card had you in there before? done a complete and clean install of up to date drivers?

 

[patent122]

i suppose it is possible that the card was on it's way out before you got it and your attempts are replacing the thermal paste were just coincidental and unrelated to it's premature death but there'll still be signs of you removing the cooler (warranty stickers etc?) so still likely they will/could reject the rma. all you can do is keep trying to contact them and hope for the best. have you had it apart again and refitted the cooler since it began?

what card had you in there before? done a complete and clean install of up to date drivers?

Warranty sticker is on backplate. I asked inno3d on facebook before if I changing paste voids warranty but they told me to just don't remove warranty sticker. I tried reinstaling drivers but didnt help. Card doesnt work anymore. I had GTX 1070 before and was working fine

 

[soulhunter123]

Honestly I doubt you've broken it yourself if what you've written is true. The areas around the screw mounts are intentionally toughened to prevent stuff like this and there should be no "essential" circuitry near those either. I would chase the original seller for a RMA.

 

[Thekwango]

Warranty sticker is on backplate. I asked inno3d on facebook before if I changing paste voids warranty but they told me to just don't remove warranty sticker. I tried reinstaling drivers but didnt help. Card doesnt work anymore. I had GTX 1070 before and was working fine

ah well in that case you're probably ok - assuming the warranty sticker doesn't show any signs of having been tampered with. do you still have the 1070 to stick back in and test now?

 

[patent122]

ah well in that case you're probably ok - assuming the warranty sticker doesn't show any signs of having been tampered with. do you still have the 1070 to stick back in and test now?

I don't have it but I tried my friends 1080Ti FE and it works fine. Frank from INNO3D finally answered me. He told me that he's awaiting for permission from Hong Kong headquarters to take care of my card

 

[patent122]

I took ENTIRE card apart, including VRAM plate and VRM heatsink to check for any even smallest signs of damage etc. but I didn't find anything. I even lent Alphacool AiO cooler from my friend and put it on the card to see if it will work but still PC won't boot up.

 

[Vince]

I don't get why people are saying it's not likely you damaged it. In my eyes you have this chain of events...

- card worked fine if a little hot under full load, not silly hot mind.
- Take card apart, clearly have trouble with refitting the cooler.
- When card is back together it is dead.

To me that is pretty much an open and shut case of you have probably shorted and broke a component somewhere on the card with your fight to re-fit the cooler. I am not having a dig but you say yourself that there wasn't contact with the cooler/core at one point but i'm guessing that there was contact with the cooler and something? Its annoying when it happens but i'm sure we have all done it at some point, back in the day I used to love trying to volt mod 9700 pro and 9800 pro cards (very expensive cards at the time) and I was so bad at it that at one point I had actually fried 4 of them in quick succession, this was at a time where I also thought it was clever to buy two PSUs and try and solder them together into one super psu... I'll leave you to guess what happened there . Even now I have several dead vega cards and a couple of 1050ti cards broken on my bench waiting for me to have a pop at repairing them. One of the Vega cards belonged to a member of the forums and it died in the same way yours did, he took off the cooler, had a fight fitting a water cooler, card is now dead and because of the time it was taking to get parts I sent the member one of my vega cards and asked for a small amount of money to cover the replacement, like an unofficial rma service if you will.

I have already tested the card and sure enough one phase is just not there and the parts for me to even attempt a repair cost me around $90, like you, he had a bit of a fight with the cooler and put a bit too much stress on the card, visually with the eye it looks fine, under the microscope there is a hole in a mosfet. I think you just got unlucky.

 

[Thekwango]

I don't have it but I tried my friends 1080Ti FE and it works fine. Frank from INNO3D finally answered me. He told me that he's awaiting for permission from Hong Kong headquarters to take care of my card

well all you can do now is hope and pray to your deity of choice that the RMA is
A) accepted
&
B) your found not at fault

I don't get why people are saying it's not likely you damaged it. In my eyes you have this chain of events...

- card worked fine if a little hot under full load, not silly hot mind.
- Take card apart, clearly have trouble with refitting the cooler.
- When card is back together it is dead.

yea it would seem that's most likely the scenario, however it's not beyond the realms of possibility that the repaste is just coincidental. for the op's sake, lets hope so.

 

[sunshinewelly]

I took ENTIRE card apart, including VRAM plate and VRM heatsink to check for any even smallest signs of damage etc. but I didn't find anything. I even lent Alphacool AiO cooler from my friend and put it on the card to see if it will work but still PC won't boot up.

does that of itself not invalidate a cards warranty

 

[patent122]

No. INNO3D responded, they accepted my RMA and told me to send the card to them to Netherland. I hope everything will be ok and they'll fix/exchange the card for me.

 

[Illuminist]

I don't get why people are saying it's not likely you damaged it. In my eyes you have this chain of events...

- card worked fine if a little hot under full load, not silly hot mind.
- Take card apart, clearly have trouble with refitting the cooler.
- When card is back together it is dead.

To me that is pretty much an open and shut case of you have probably shorted and broke a component somewhere on the card with your fight to re-fit the cooler. I am not having a dig but you say yourself that there wasn't contact with the cooler/core at one point but i'm guessing that there was contact with the cooler and something? Its annoying when it happens but i'm sure we have all done it at some point, back in the day I used to love trying to volt mod 9700 pro and 9800 pro cards (very expensive cards at the time) and I was so bad at it that at one point I had actually fried 4 of them in quick succession, this was at a time where I also thought it was clever to buy two PSUs and try and solder them together into one super psu... I'll leave you to guess what happened there . Even now I have several dead vega cards and a couple of 1050ti cards broken on my bench waiting for me to have a pop at repairing them. One of the Vega cards belonged to a member of the forums and it died in the same way yours did, he took off the cooler, had a fight fitting a water cooler, card is now dead and because of the time it was taking to get parts I sent the member one of my vega cards and asked for a small amount of money to cover the replacement, like an unofficial rma service if you will.

I have already tested the card and sure enough one phase is just not there and the parts for me to even attempt a repair cost me around $90, like you, he had a bit of a fight with the cooler and put a bit too much stress on the card, visually with the eye it looks fine, under the microscope there is a hole in a mosfet. I think you just got unlucky.

Little project is advancing nicely I see, good on you matey

 

[tyler_jrb]

One of the Vega cards belonged to a member of the forums and it died in the same way yours did, he took off the cooler, had a fight fitting a water cooler, card is now dead and because of the time it was taking to get parts I sent the member one of my vega cards and asked for a small amount of money to cover the replacement, like an unofficial rma service if you will.

I have already tested the card and sure enough one phase is just not there and the parts for me to even attempt a repair cost me around $90, like you, he had a bit of a fight with the cooler and put a bit too much stress on the card, visually with the eye it looks fine, under the microscope there is a hole in a mosfet. I think you just got unlucky.

Used to do the same, often buy cheap dead old cards for next to nothing in an attempt to repair. Most charge too much for dead recent cards.

You’re talking like 50-60% cost of an original fully functional card and considering the amount of variation they aren’t really worth it.

Old cards I find fun though as its great to fault find and see them running once more for next to no costs.

With regards to your 64, often they will run just fine with a phase down as long as it isn’t shorted. Just won’t be able to supply as much power under load.

 

[Vince]

Little project is advancing nicely I see, good on you matey

Yea I do have a few Vegas to fix and stacks of components for them... it's the mosfets that are silly money, 3 mosfets for the vcore phases on a ref Vega cost $75 and took me almost a day to track down, needless to say I could only find them in the usa as well. Controllers and inductors were much cheaper and easier to find but still it's not a cheap hobby if you are working on high end cards with high end components.

 

[Vince]

Used to do the same, often buy cheap dead old cards for next to nothing in an attempt to repair. Most charge too much for dead recent cards.

You’re talking like 50-60% cost of an original fully functional card and considering the amount of variation they aren’t really worth it.

Old cards I find fun though as its great to fault find and see them running once more for next to no costs.

With regards to your 64, often they will run just fine with a phase down as long as it isn’t shorted. Just won’t be able to supply as much power under load.

I think the phase with the issues is also the phase that supplies VDDC and Video out. The card is very much dead at this point but I do think I can resurrect it

Glad to see the op is also having some success. It really does suck when an expensive gpu goes south.

 

[patent122]

I received 2070 Super Jekyll X3 from RMA 3 days ago. It took a long time but they replaced the card. I got lucky with RMA because they only checked if the card is working, offered me a replacement and send the card to me. Very friendly but slow RMA process. Heatsink on 1080Ti had problem with fitting 1 screw, that also explains why card ran extremely hot and why I coudn't screw it in. Propably GPU burned because only half of the die was touching the heatsink.

 

[pastymuncher]

That one screw that was different appears to be the wrong screw. All four screws should have springs and are exactly the same and sure as hell shouldn't get jammed in the pcb. I have the Inno3d GTX1070 ichill X3 which is basically the same cooler without the extra small fan on the side. I would say that the original owner bodged the card after having lost one of the original screws. Luckily Inno3d came good for you and given you a nice replacement.