I9 9900k or i9 9920x

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So it's time to upgrade the I7 5930k I have, It's just not enough anymore.

I'd like to upgrade to the 9900k or even the 9900/9920x
I have a 2080Ti waiting to be used in the system I build, and I also plan for 64GB of memory. 32GB right now I keep running into memory issues.

The reason I mention the 9920x is because I often run 1 or 2 VM's depending on what I'm doing.
A typical day may include having a couple of MMORPG clients open, Adobe photoshop, some IDE's, a few chrome tabs, and I may in the evening launch open another game.

From what i've been reading, I'm not sure how the 9920 would perform with games.
Also with the 9900K it only has 16 PCI lanes, so maybe in the future if I decided to SLI the 2080Ti for what ever reason... I also plan to use the M.2 slot(s).

Thank you for taking the time to read, and look forward to your responses.
 
Thought about going ryzen 3900x for 12 cores ?

Performance in Photoshop has greatly improved . More cores and Threads for VM as well as a good performance boost in coming compared older ryzen chips and can match intel at 4k.
Come 1080p intel is still king all g with 1440p using flagship cards like 2080ti

With 9920x... I wouldn't bother till x299 refresh with 10th Gen ( please note 10th gen x299 aren't 10nm but still 14nm unlike laptop and z470 boards ) . Should see IPC and speed increases

If ryzen then twin pack of these at £160 a pop and pc to 3600hz.
If intel then cheap 3000hz

**Sorry, seems copy and paste of code had a hyper link
  • BLS2K16G4D32AESB
 
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Oi!!! @orbitalwalsh.

I want to see your project finished!

*@Xerof - do me favour and don't quote the above - as the link is an accident - take the memory info but don't quote it within your post. Orbi, must have accidentally copied link with memory info - easily done. He's coming back to edit...

*Quote mine if you need info - gives you all the info you need - and memory clocks to ~3600MHz:

Crucial Ballistix Sport LT (you need AES in the product code to assure yourself that it's Micron E-DIE.)
 
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There's just too much to choose from, and with the money I'm spending I need it to be right.

So the thing is I pretty much need this ASAP like within the next few days, I can only assume 10th gen isn't going to be any time soon. It's just causing me too many problems now with having to restart and so forth.
The 3900x did catch my eye but again this seems like the pre-order dates is maybe a bit too long for me.

So from what I can gather, I'm probably best going for 9900k?
How are the 16 PCI lanes going to effect me with an 2080Ti and M,2 drive in use? will I notice any performance issues?
 
I'm just going to go for a 9900k build for now, it's more appealing to me.
Can anybody recommend a good Motherboard & RAM Combo? I've seen some C14's but not sure if to just get C16's at around 3200Mhz

Some memory I've been looking at:

Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP -- CMW64GX4M4C3200C16

I also seen some G Skill F4 3200 TridentZ C14 64GB Available but at about £600...
 
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If you get the Crucial Ballistix Sport 3000MHz kit - it's marginally cheaper and timings are 15 16 16 - they really are great sticks, and timing could possibly be tightened. They're essentially the same as the 3200MHz kits but with tighter timings. The 3200MHz stick 'should' hit C16 - as members have them clocked to 3600MHz @ c16 - but obviously no guarantee.

The Gigabyte boards have great VRM cooling but the BIOS interface not so great (may get updated since they gave the GUI a facelift on the x570 boards - it may make its way to the z390s) - but once you're setup who cares (will you be clocking - or leaving at stock for your uses?)
 
xerof said:
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP -- CMW64GX4M4C3200C16

I also seen some G Skill F4 3200 TridentZ C14 64GB Available but at about £600...
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Is the aesthetic/RGB also a factor in selection choice? That's a £300+ premium compared to E-DIE Micron of the CBS LT (it comes in different colours if makes a difference)

You may find this thread helpful CBS LT user experience/tweaking - Clicky
 
xerof said:
Sort of, but not all that bothered. So I just found this: BLS4K16G4D32AESB which is a 64GB kit
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Yep, the 3000MHz kit has tighter timings - BLS4K16G4D30AESb - but i'm guessing you get the idea it's the same memory bumped up with looser timings etc.. So, strong chance you could tighten the 3200MHz kit - but silicon lottery etc..

The Crucial specs show up your listed memory as very pricey - you could put the money saved towards a larger NVMe drive (thinking of your PCI lanes)
 
So let's say I brought the BLS4K16G4D32AESB, does that mean if I run this at 3000Mhz I would get the same timings as BLS4K16G4D30AESB?

So example, the 3000Mhz runs at 15-16-16
If I brought the 3200Mhz, but run it at 3000Mhz, then would I still get 15-16-16?
 
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xerof said:
So let's say I brought the BLS4K16G4D32AESB, does that mean if I run this at 3000Mhz I would get the same timings as BLS4K16G4D30AESB?
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Yes, 'in theory' - but you may as well buy the 3000MHz kit?

Crucial use the same silicon for their CBS LT (AES) memory and will test the tolerance of their higher rated sticks and I presume bin them to lower rating sets if they don't pass (how thorough this process is i have no idea - but their 3000MHz kits clock/hit ~3600MHz with vary timings from anecdotal forum banter and uploads).

But they still have to cater for those of us who only want/need 3000MHz so, if the sticks have AES in the product code you're essentially getting the same memory - Micron E-DIE - and it seems to have impressive user stats for clocking/tighter timings that clearly shows that most of it is 'quality silicon' throughout the line (similar to the expensive Samsung B-DIE).

**Caveat: - it's still a silicon lottery as to what you'll get but if you were contemplating spending £600 for the G SKill Trident set at C14 - i would say it's a no brainer buying the the 3000MHz 15 16 16 or the 3200MHz 16 18 18 at ~£320 and looking at adjusting frequency/timings to specific needs. Even if you didn't hit all the numbers of 3000MHZ/3200MHz 14 14 14 34 - is that really worth £300 more?
 
The reason I ask, is there's a £4 difference in the 3200 and the 3000 so was just thinking for the future as I don't plan to overclock straight away. And just wanted to buy what's right and going to work best straight out the box
 
I went for the 3000 in the end after doing a little more research. Seems the 3000 is the better option going forward.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
@Plec cheers. I copied the description from crucial along with serial code. Didn't realise it had hyper link attached !
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No worries, i knew what you had done (easy to do), and mods could tell it was a genuine mistake too.

PHEW!!! Your build log is still safe :)

xerof said:
I went for the 3000 in the end after doing a little more research. Seems the 3000 is the better option going forward.
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It does what you want straight out of the box at £300 less than the G SKill Trident - and you may get very similar timings if you get good silicon.

That's £300 you can put towards a 2Tb NVMe.

What's the rest of the spec?
 
Aorus Pro WiFi or Master if you've got the cash

Sorry ^^^ if op went intel

4 sticks of ram puts big strain on Mobo and IMC. Least 6 layer PCB board if your gunning 3600hz .
Reason why ITX boards used to break records either with low or high amounts of ram :)
 
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