From what I've read it's definitely been killed off. So no more of the high powered variants.
The new Insignia - it's terrible.
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From what I've read it's definitely been killed off. So no more of the high powered variants.
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It is the Insignia.
When a car company is bought by another car company all existing products do not simply end. The Insignia is based on a platform co-developed by Opel in Russelsheim and by GM in the US, known as E2-XX. It is the basis for a number of GM products, including the Holden Commodore, the Buick Regal, the Opel/Vauxhall Insignia, the Chevrolet Malibu, plus in stretched form the next Chevrolet Impala and Buick Lacrosse. There is also a crossover version of the platform. The OV version is built in Russelsheim, Germany.
I suspect that the new 508 (which looks rather good) will become the basis of the next Insignia, and that instead of a mid-cycle enhancement we will see an all-new car based on the 508 (EMP2 platform, same as 3008) within the next 2 or 3 years. Bit of shame in some ways as the E2-XX platform is very good, but the 508 looks great too. It will mean two new completely-fresh introductions into the market over a short space of time. Nothing confirmed on this as yet.
I suspect that the new 508 (which looks rather good) will become the basis of the next Insignia, and that instead of a mid-cycle enhancement we will see an all-new car based on the 508 (EMP2 platform, same as 3008) within the next 2 or 3 years. Bit of shame in some ways as the E2-XX platform is very good, but the 508 looks great too. It will mean two new completely-fresh introductions into the market over a short space of time. Nothing confirmed on this as yet.
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Most likely because they also have no access to powerful engines anymore. If it is one thing that GM are good at it is engines. Peugeot's most powerful engine is a 1.6 turbo.
So that means psa owns Holden too right?
Or is the platform being shared between GM and PSA?
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GM still own Holden.
PSA aren't going to immediately stop making Vauxhall products that share GM parts. It'll be a gradual transition.
PSA aren't going to immediately stop making Vauxhall products that share GM parts. It'll be a gradual transition.
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I just got one of these Insignia's but a petrol 1.5 turbo in estate format. Very pleased with it, full leather, heated front and rear seats, reversing camera, great to drive, good load carrier and in particular a very very well designed infotainment system, great saftey features, which can also be switched off if they annoy you, oh, and that is all in addition to great design and incredible value for money, and believe it or not made in Germany of all places. I just had to make an account to respond because this is even coming up on a Google search for Insignia forum and your rant is doing a dis service to vauxhall who have actually tried hard on this occasion and delivered very successfully. An amazingly comfortable vehicle, lots of adjustment and a joy to drive.I like to give all the hire cars I get an open mind, I get all sorts dropped off, and last time I had a Vauxhall it was the 1L turbo Astra which I actually quite liked, but in this months edition of hire car bingo today they dropped off a new (2k miles on the clock) Insignia and from the outside it's a decent looking motor (certainly spacious and not a design that will displease the masses). The one I'm driving for the week is a 2018 1.6 diesel auto in the SRi Nav configuration. I don't generally 'review' cars but it's so bad that I feel a public service need to warn anyone to even waste their time testing driving one.
TlR This Insignia (which is around £25K retail) is a terrible. The steering is heavy, the ride is shocking for what is designed to be a motorway cruiser, and the engine is gutless and the delay between pressing the gas and getting any kinda of performance is massive. Then the gizmo's on this (active lane assist, collision warning etc) do more harm that good, on a 1 hour trip around town the lane assist tried to kick with absolutely no reason to, the collision warning think came up when it mistook a bush for a car when going around a corner - did Vauxhall even test this stuff? The aircon is noisy (I mean inside of jet noisy) and took about 30 minutes to actually start producing 'cool' air, and the interior is really cheap gloss plastic. The only upsides are decent seats and an okay satnav.
I have no idea who would buy one of these.
Cheers,
UL
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Strong username
Thanks for the input, Vauxhall.
As per the previous Insignia, my experience with a hire car Insignia is that they are pretty decent to look at and hateful to drive. I can only assume the reason that Insignia drivers blast past you at 80+ mph on the A90 (Aberdeen'ers will understand ...) is that they'd rather take a speeding ticket over having to spend more time in the thing!
To be fair, the reviews of the new(ish) Insignia are good too - basically for the money, you cant get much better apparently.
In the right trim (estate, big wheels and the right colour) it looks very smart too. Its also well equiped, with a massive boot and with a decent options list.
Sadly, there are many people in this world who would run a mile from a Vauxhall just becasue its a Vauxhall.
My dad had Omegas as company cars - thankfully not the diesels or the 2.0 16V Omegas but the 3.0 V6's and even had an MV6 before he left his company onto new things. Those cars still hold a very special place in my heart for so many reasons - most of which, BMW and Audi snobs would scoff at - fair enough i suppose.
Then again, i wouldnt drive a Hyundi or a Kia for the same reasons. Lol - stigma sticks.
I agree though, the reviews cant be all wrong so be happy with your car. I think they look good.
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KIA and Hyundai (same things) are Mickey Mouse where every feature is just some knock-off lip-service, but the public love them and have done for nearly a decade, much to Vauxhall (and Ford's) demise. I guess they are playing catchup. The public want maximum bling and aliexpress gadgets, most underpowered engine, minimum cost.
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Yep, especially chosen to squarely meet the title of this topic.Strong username
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I am not Vauxhall, just one of their happy customers. Loved my previous cars too, which were Vectra C and Vectra C facelift estates. All fantastic to drive.
Noticed that too. On the surface Kia and Hyundai looks good, but there are corners cut everywhere.
The i30n had loads of hype as their first hot hatch. But Ford's offerings are just better.
I dont see a great future for Vauxhall as part of PSA though.
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Probably why GM got shut to PSAProbably why Vauxhall are in such a bad way at the minute. 25k for a run of the mill diesel like that is laughable. I’m sure some of the top spec models are around 35k. My local Vauxhall dealer had some crazy deals on the new Insignia since it’s release I’m sure it was about 1.5k down and around £160p/m must be struggling to sell them. I see more cars getting towed back in there by recovery trucks than I see leaving.
I have never been a fan of Vauxhall having driven a few I just think Ford always do it better for the same price especially handling and now other’s are in the mix like Kia, Hyundai etc Vauxhall could end up like Rover in a few years
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Hello Vauxhall,
I'm sorry no, it's **** box and remains the worst car I've ever rented.
Best wishes,
Ultralaser.
Remind us what your long term car was until recently...
After that anything will be comfortable!