Advice Before Purchase Please?

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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £984.05 (includes shipping: £13.20)



I still have my 1080 for GPU at the moment along with other peripherals but how does this looks chaps? Will be for streaming and gaming only really.

Any advice is appreciated!

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4Play said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £984.05 (includes shipping: £13.20)



I still have my 1080 for GPU at the moment along with other peripherals but how does this looks chaps? Will be for streaming and gaming only really.

Any advice is appreciated!

4play​
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An MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX saves a bit of money. That Gigabyte board is a bit meh anyway. The X570 Elite is better if you want an X570 board.

Swap out the psu for the Corsair RM650W. That CX unit isn't very good.

If you don't mind buying the Ram and SSD elsewhere you can get a set of Crucial Ballistix Sport LT (Crucial part number - BLS2K8G4D30AESBK) and a 1TB Sabrent Rocket SSD for the same sort of price. You should be fine with 16GB though. If you want to stick with 32GB I would go 2 x 16GB instead. With the Crucial Ram just make sure that it has 'AES' in the part number if you go with that.

That case doesn't have the best airflow but other than than it is pretty good for the price.
 
lee32uk said:
He has a 1080.
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Sorry, missed that.
As mentioned before, a solid b450 would help you save some money.
A out the case, if the design is as restrictive as the Phanteks P400s, I would suggest something with a better airflow. Tried to install good fans at all available places and wasn't good enough for the p400s.
I'm using 4x8GB ram, no issues. It's the 8pack, 3200. Expensive but was the go-to for the 1600x, so adding another set when the price was good, was simpler.
 
Michael Marini said:
Sorry, missed that.
As mentioned before, a solid b450 would help you save some money.
A out the case, if the design is as restrictive as the Phanteks P400s, I would suggest something with a better airflow. Tried to install good fans at all available places and wasn't good enough for the p400s.
I'm using 4x8GB ram, no issues. It's the 8pack, 3200. Expensive but was the go-to for the 1600x, so adding another set when the price was good, was simpler.
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Case is hard to suggest as everyone has different tastes. I like the Fractal Meshify C and Phanteks Enthoo Pro M etc. The Coolermaster H500 also has great airflow if he doesn't mind RGB.
 
lee32uk said:
An MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX saves a bit of money. That Gigabyte board is a bit meh anyway. The X570 Elite is better if you want an X570 board.

Swap out the psu for the Corsair RM650W. That CX unit isn't very good.

If you don't mind buying the Ram and SSD elsewhere you can get a set of Crucial Ballistix Sport LT (Crucial part number - BLS2K8G4D30AESBK) and a 1TB Sabrent Rocket SSD for the same sort of price. You should be fine with 16GB though. If you want to stick with 32GB I would go 2 x 16GB instead. With the Crucial Ram just make sure that it has 'AES' in the part number if you go with that.

That case doesn't have the best airflow but other than than it is pretty good for the price.
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Thanks for the replies gents.

I would prefer to get a board with the newer pcie capability just for future proofing. My understanding is GPUs in the future may use this. It's unlikely I will be updating the processor any time soon but I will most definitely be upgrading the graphics. Am I in the wrong here?

Thanks for the PSU advice.

I know case is subjective but I'm not going to be doing crazy overclocking so shouldn't be too bad!
 
4Play said:
I would prefer to get a board with the newer pcie capability just for future proofing. My understanding is GPUs in the future may use this. It's unlikely I will be updating the processor any time soon but I will most definitely be upgrading the graphics. Am I in the wrong here?
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pcie 4.0 is wasted if just for "future-proofing" even the highest end gpu only just about saturates pcie 2.0 x16.
pcie 4.0 x16 is 4 times the bandwidth...unless you expect to keep the computer for 20 years, it's false economy
same with the excuse of pcie 4.0 for ssds...random read/writes don't even saturate sata3 bandwidth...though there is a case for pcie 4.0 if you do tasks with heavy sequential read/writes...
 
When running my previous Vega 56 on the 8x PCI-E 3, as an attempt to give some clearance to the M.2 area as the GPU would either blow hot air over it or with the fan's off would keep the whole area hot. The lost of performance from 16x to 8x was about 2%. Mind that the Vega 56 wasn't a high end GPU and the 2% could have been just error margin, but I don't expect the next gen to be limited by the 16x PCI-E 3 just yet.
 
tamzzy said:
pcie 4.0 is wasted if just for "future-proofing" even the highest end gpu only just about saturates pcie 2.0 x16.
pcie 4.0 x16 is 4 times the bandwidth...unless you expect to keep the computer for 20 years, it's false economy
same with the excuse of pcie 4.0 for ssds...random read/writes don't even saturate sata3 bandwidth...though there is a case for pcie 4.0 if you do tasks with heavy sequential read/writes...
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Thanks for the information.

It sounds like the extra money on the motherboard may be a waste. I don't plan on ever having sli, water cooling etc. A really naive question but what is the benefit to me spending the extra money on say the Auorus over the tomahawk ?

Any recommendations on ram? I would prefer to have 32gb and preferably no RGB nonsense :p.

I rarely upgrade but have the disposable money now to spend on a decent setup!!
 
It's a better mobo with better vrms, 2x nvme slots and x570 chipset (pcie 4) and better I/o connectivity. Worth the extra £100? Depends if you have the money to spare and also depends on your other component choices and how long you forsee using the parts before another upgrade
 
x570 handy if you plan to push 12+ cores in the future .

with the cost of the elite, rather push AORUS ITX version - much better then any b450 and 95% of x470 boards and 70% of X570 Boards

@tamzzy runs one. cut down to nzxt h200 which actually has better airflow then h500

get lucky on crucial 3200hz ram and can push past 3600hz mark - again think tamzzy is rocking 32gb versions - naturally his 8 layer PCB ITX takes advantage of this with signal loss blah blah blah
 
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