AMD Radeon RX 5300XT

[Boomstick777]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-b550-chipset-radeon-rx-5300-xt-gpu,40457.html

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-rx-5300xt-with-4gb-gddr5-and-b550-spotted-for-oem.html

 

[Boomstick777]

Hoping there is a single slot low profile version of this card. Would be ideal for the newer HP pre builds where only those cards will fit. There isn't a decent single slot low profile card atm.

Come on AMD do it.

 

[4K8KW10]

The following sounds legit, so I put it here:

Since the design is entry-level, we can expect a 128-bit bus interface on this specific graphics card. The Radeon RX 5300 XT could also feature a 75W power design which would allow it to sip power directly from the PCIe 4.0 interface rather than using an external 6-pin connector. We can’t say for sure if this graphics card is based on the Navi 14 or Navi 12 die but a Navi 14 GPU with 4 GB VRAM has already shown up and showed performance close to the Radeon RX 570.

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-5300-xt-navi-gpu-4-gb-gddr5-memory-leak/


Edit: Perhaps RX 5300 XT is Navi 14. RX 5500 is Navi 12

https://twitter.com/x/status/1176141037443719168

https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-14-gpu-radeon-rx-graphics-card-performance-leak/

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

AMD should clear up on the low end if they can get RX570 performance on a 75watt PCIe powered card.

 

[Alexrose1uk]

Yes, that is dramatically better than what was available previously (1050ti etc).
If they can fit it on a low profile card as well...then my god, if pricing isnt extreme, that'll excite a lot of low profile owners.

 

[R3X]

Very good news and am glad AMD are releasing 4gig variants of the card and maybe 3gig, Netflix 4K requires 3gig min just to work so all those old rx550 and geforce 1030 2-3 year old cards ain't cutting it with 2gig.

Am still surprised Nvidia or AMD did not clean up the low end market not everyone has time to game or games and just wants netflix 4K, hdmi/display port @ 60hertz ports and enough power to do surf and display @ 4K. Long overdue but glad AMD maybe solving it lets hope October we see a entire range of cards to fix this market cos its shambles atm.

 

[LePhuronn]

hope October we see a entire range of cards to fix this market cos its shambles atm

That's not going to happen until Nvidia drop their prices by 40%. As long as Nvidia continue to charge insane money and consumers continue to buy at those insane prices, AMD has zero incentive to charge sensible money themselves.

 

[R3X]

That's not going to happen until Nvidia drop their prices by 40%. As long as Nvidia continue to charge insane money and consumers continue to buy at those insane prices, AMD has zero incentive to charge sensible money themselves.

So true sadly, I miss the old days when starter or budget get a display cards were on the shelves for £29.99

 

[gpuerrilla]

So true sadly, I miss the old days when starter or budget get a display cards were on the shelves for £29.99

I didnt mind spending between one to two hundred on a performance mid range all them years ago. Somehow in this market that sits at nearly four hundred to get there and its at best only a 20% improvement from the previous gen!

 

[theforce]

I didnt mind spending between one to two hundred on a performance mid range all them years ago. Somehow in this market that sits at nearly four hundred to get there and its at best only a 20% improvement from the previous gen!

Yes, l remember getting a 4890 shortly after release for less than half the money you need to shell out for a 5700XT. Hopefully, a new player like Intel can help drive the prices down. Seems like we have to wait for the lower-powered cards to be released first before we get some more information for the 5800 that was rumoured a while back.

 

[LePhuronn]

Hopefully, a new player like Intel can help drive the prices down

Won't happen. As long as Nvidia set stupid prices, there's no reason for AMD to slash theirs. And as long as the market is inflated by Nvidia and AMD, Intel have no reason to stupidly undercut them either.

The only real way we'll see prices come down is a proper performance war triggering price cuts. That should've happened with the 5700 launch, for example. AMD show up and crush the RTX 2060 and 2070 as intended. Nvidia could have slashed prices of those 2 cards, triggering AMD to also lower prices in response (because they easily can and still make the 45% margin Lisa Su wants). Lo and behold, 2070 and 5700 XT at about £300 where they should have been in the first place.

But no, we got the Supers instead which only cemented the higher price points, because lowering prices "devalues" the brand. Intel have the same mentality. If they won't slash the price of the 9900K to destroy the 3700X (which they can and should), then why would they introduce their new GPUs significantly under market rates? Intel don't do "cheap and cheerful" because that carries negativity.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Won't happen..
The only real way we'll see prices come down is a proper performance war triggering price cuts. That should've happened with the 290x launch.

Fixed for when I think it got silly and have now doubled because nobody voted with their wallets or abstained through principle.

Just before this I got a 7990 and a 700w PSU in a sale bundle for £300. This would be unthinkable in current conditions.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Won't happen. As long as Nvidia set stupid prices, there's no reason for AMD to slash theirs. And as long as the market is inflated by Nvidia and AMD, Intel have no reason to stupidly undercut them either.

The only real way we'll see prices come down is a proper performance war triggering price cuts. That should've happened with the 5700 launch, for example. AMD show up and crush the RTX 2060 and 2070 as intended. Nvidia could have slashed prices of those 2 cards, triggering AMD to also lower prices in response (because they easily can and still make the 45% margin Lisa Su wants). Lo and behold, 2070 and 5700 XT at about £300 where they should have been in the first place.

But no, we got the Supers instead which only cemented the higher price points, because lowering prices "devalues" the brand. Intel have the same mentality. If they won't slash the price of the 9900K to destroy the 3700X (which they can and should), then why would they introduce their new GPUs significantly under market rates? Intel don't do "cheap and cheerful" because that carries negativity.

I think Intel will price somewhat aggressively and IIRC from what I've read they are targeting the mass market £200-£300 segment

Because they have to convince people to switch from AMD or Nvidia. Personally I'd be concerned about Intel failing and dropping out of the GPU market and consequently not investing in driver support

TBF there is value in the market with the 570/580/Vega, it's people requiring higher end performance at higher resolutions that are unhappy. And even then you can flash a 5700 to a 5700 XT apparently.

 

[bru]

Won't happen. As long as Nvidia set stupid prices, there's no reason for AMD to slash theirs. And as long as the market is inflated by Nvidia and AMD, Intel have no reason to stupidly undercut them either.

The only real way we'll see prices come down is a proper performance war triggering price cuts. That should've happened with the 5700 launch, for example. AMD show up and crush the RTX 2060 and 2070 as intended. Nvidia could have slashed prices of those 2 cards, triggering AMD to also lower prices in response (because they easily can and still make the 45% margin Lisa Su wants). Lo and behold, 2070 and 5700 XT at about £300 where they should have been in the first place.

But no, we got the Supers instead which only cemented the higher price points, because lowering prices "devalues" the brand. Intel have the same mentality. If they won't slash the price of the 9900K to destroy the 3700X (which they can and should), then why would they introduce their new GPUs significantly under market rates? Intel don't do "cheap and cheerful" because that carries negativity.

That is the thing, AMD had the golden opportunity right when they launched the RX5700 series, to correct this price escalation that NVidia has thrust upon us, but alas they didn't, they jumped on the overpriced bandwagon.

Of course NVidia set the bar high to begin with, so they have to take the blame, but AMD hasn't helped by following along and you can be certain that INTEL wont mind pricing their upcoming GPU's nice and high as well, assuming the performance is there.

So basically yes I agree with you.

 

[LePhuronn]

That is the thing, AMD had the golden opportunity right when they launched the RX5700 series, to correct this price escalation that NVidia has thrust upon us, but alas they didn't, they jumped on the overpriced bandwagon.

Yes indeed.

I still insist that AdoredTV's leak was accurate when he was provided it. Nvidia were storming ahead with Maxwell and Pascal with no indication that they were slowing down. AMD knew they had something good on their hands with Navi, but still had to massively undercut prices and performance to even be a consideration against Nvidia, hence Vega 56/GTX 1070 performance at less than $200 for example.

But then when Turing came out and AMD saw Nvidia hadn't really pushed raw performance that much and focussed on RTX at insane prices instead, it was clear AMD didn't need to be quite as aggressive as originally planned. So the low end Navi 12 RX 500 replacement got renamed Navi 10 and bumped to the mid-range to target the 2060 and 2070 at similar price points; Nvidia proved to not bring mid-range performance to the low end (as the Maxwell and Pascal performance curve suggested), so why should AMD?

 

[Martini1991]

Yes indeed.

I still insist that AdoredTV's leak was accurate when he was provided it. Nvidia were storming ahead with Maxwell and Pascal with no indication that they were slowing down. AMD knew they had something good on their hands with Navi, but still had to massively undercut prices and performance to even be a consideration against Nvidia, hence Vega 56/GTX 1070 performance at less than $200 for example.

But then when Turing came out and AMD saw Nvidia hadn't really pushed raw performance that much and focussed on RTX at insane prices instead, it was clear AMD didn't need to be quite as aggressive as originally planned. So the low end Navi 12 RX 500 replacement got renamed Navi 10 and bumped to the mid-range to target the 2060 and 2070 at similar price points; Nvidia proved to not bring mid-range performance to the low end (as the Maxwell and Pascal performance curve suggested), so why should AMD?

The die's too big to be a low end card.

I think AMD are "ahead" because of 7nm so have skipped a generation as such. That would mean they could release a full fat card to combat Nvidia's next launch (Which has to be for Cyberpunk).

I think it's ultimately bad for consumers because prices are all around poor (Although the current AIB 5700XT's at £400 at the best cards currently available at the price. Although having built a few 5700XT rigs, there's been a crap ton of teething problems with multi-screen being nigh on broken for some use case scenarios till recently), but at least AMD are spitting on you before blasting us in the ass.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Yes indeed.

I still insist that AdoredTV's leak was accurate when he was provided it. Nvidia were storming ahead with Maxwell and Pascal with no indication that they were slowing down. AMD knew they had something good on their hands with Navi, but still had to massively undercut prices and performance to even be a consideration against Nvidia, hence Vega 56/GTX 1070 performance at less than $200 for example.

But then when Turing came out and AMD saw Nvidia hadn't really pushed raw performance that much and focussed on RTX at insane prices instead, it was clear AMD didn't need to be quite as aggressive as originally planned. So the low end Navi 12 RX 500 replacement got renamed Navi 10 and bumped to the mid-range to target the 2060 and 2070 at similar price points; Nvidia proved to not bring mid-range performance to the low end (as the Maxwell and Pascal performance curve suggested), so why should AMD?

I tend to think it wasn't. What was he saying? He listed a long list of cards and we have 2 cards, the top end card quicker than he claimed. He also claimed 'there's all kind of problems with Navi, it's heat etc' and it's actually very cool and quiet. The 5700 XT vastly exceeds his prediction of Vega 64 + 10% and that isn't close to being the top end part of this range.

He also predicted the 560 replacement would be RX580 performance. The RX 5300 is the 560 replacement and they're talking 570 performance, which isn't far off, but it isn't quite 580 performance.

 

[Martini1991]

I tend to think it wasn't. What was he saying? He listed a long list of cards and we have 2 cards, the top end card quicker than he claimed. He also claimed 'there's all kind of problems with Navi, it's heat etc' and it's actually very cool and quiet. The 5700 XT vastly exceeds his prediction of Vega 64 + 10% and that isn't close to being the top end part of this range.

He also predicted the 560 replacement would be RX580 performance. The RX 5300 is the 560 replacement and they're talking 570 performance, which isn't far off, but it isn't quite 580 performance.

It depends on the price.
RX 570 performance for the RX5300 is more than impressive. But it has to come in at ~$100. That's a stellar buy for entry gaming.

 

[bru]

Well its just a vicious circle, NVidia has to take the blame as they are the ones that have pushed the prices up. But I suppose ultimately we the consumers are to blame.

 

[bru]

The die's too big to be a low end card.

I think AMD are "ahead" because of 7nm so have skipped a generation as such. That would mean they could release a full fat card to combat Nvidia's next launch (Which has to be for Cyberpunk).

I think it's ultimately bad for consumers because prices are all around poor (Although the current AIB 5700XT's at £400 at the best cards currently available at the price. Although having built a few 5700XT rigs, there's been a crap ton of teething problems with multi-screen being nigh on broken for some use case scenarios till recently), but at least AMD are spitting on you before blasting us in the ass.

Interesting definition of ahead. Just shy of the third tier card from NVidia and that is with a process node advantage.