Motherboard Upgrade - Stability

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nukemdukem

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Hi All,

I've been having a few stability issues with my current PC - its coming up to 4 years old and i think its time for a limited upgrade.

My system currently is:
i5-4670k @ 3.4ghz
16gb ram (1333mhz)
Geforce GTX 980
MSI Z87-G45 motherboard

I want to upgrade motherboard, CPU and ram - and keep everything else - will upgrade my graphics card next year when i get a 4k monitor.

My main objective is system stability.

I want to go for the top cpu available at the moment - whether its intel or AMD and pair it with a good motherboard (that has onboard wifi) and 32gb of ram. I dont think i will do much overclocking.

It'll be used for games, video editing, python programming.

What would everyone recommend - no specific budget.

Many thanks
Tariq
 
Which PSU are you using? Worthy checking,.as some PSUs can cause random crashes when starting to fail. Also to allow future upgrades, would be more precise to recommend something.
Best bang per pound seems to be the MSI 450B + Ryzen 3600.
 
nukemdukem said:
Thanks - i've got quite a good PSU 650 Watt, will check specifications tonight, but it was high end at the time.
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i went for a 9900k and an asrock ITX z390. i run with 16gb of the 8 pack ram, all three have been rock solid.

heat is a major problem with all the latest top end chips and core counts so it can be a pain if you want to run outside of stock clocks.

8086k with a AIO is probably the best binned chip combo available in a retail box to run at stock.

The AMD chips are great value but i would want a binned one.
 
Best value for money for a system with legs? Go with a 3700X and Asus B450-F (you will need to update the BIOS first) and some decent ram (T.Group 3200 CL14 for eg)
Faster than a 8086k for less money and lower TDP. I just recentily sold off my 4790K system and got a decent amount back for it all.
 
an0nym0us said:
TDP is for CPU thermals and cooling, and isn't related to CPU electrical power consumption.
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Regardless the 3700x is fairly less power hungry than others vs the performance it delivers (the 3800X isn’t good at all because of this) and hence why I think a lower end B450-F is ok especially if not OCing.
 
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Regardless the 3700x is fairly less power hungry than others vs the performance it delivers (the 3800X isn’t good at all because of this) and hence why I think a lower end B450-F is ok especially if not OCing.
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Still doesn't make the Asus ROG Strix B450-F a good value for money motherboard. There are so many other better motherboards (e.g. better VRM, BIOS Flashback feature, etc) available for cheaper.
 
Define how much processing power do you need / how much money do you want to spend first.

Intel Core i9-10900X is $590 and 165W TDP, that's a lot. The motherboard would still be pricey as well.

I went from 4790k to 3700x and apart from single core being about 20% quicker, the multicore is double the speed and only 65W TDP vs 88W TDP and only cost around £250 after I sold off my old bits.

Re: X570 motherboard/AM4/future upgrades, AMD says it is supporting up to 2020. After that there may be a new socket, however I do think AMD will pump out a few more AM4 cpus even beyond the 3950X.
 
I think i got carried away - when researching my build, its easy to get obsessed with wanting "more power / speed" but in reality i dont need it!

Focusing on what i will be using my PC for over the next 12-18 month i have brought myself back down to reality and best performance/ value.

Refocusing i think it will go for:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WIFI
32GB of 3600mhz cl-16 Ram
NZTX AIO cpu cooler
NZTX H710i case (will OC be getting any of these instock soon?)

Still debating if i should go for gen 4 or gen 3 M.2 SSD at present - since i've seen reports of the gen 4 drives getting really hot - and for my current usage i dont need gen 4 - so i could wait a bit.

If i really get into video editing then i can swap out the CPU and M.2 SSD if that scenario occurs.

Now debating if i should do the graphics card at the same time - i game and work on QHD, may do some 4k video editing.

Theres a small price diff between Nvidia 2070 Super and AMD 5700XT - i'm leaning towards the Nvidia 2070 super - but just wondering if this can do 4k gaming in the future around 70-80FPS if i changed my monitor in 12 months time?

many thanks
 
Wanted to post the blue screen issue i've been getting, but cant seem to upload the photo or modify url link.
 
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WesleyBurns said:
Define how much processing power do you need / how much money do you want to spend first.

Intel Core i9-10900X is $590 and 165W TDP, that's a lot. The motherboard would still be pricey as well.

I went from 4790k to 3700x and apart from single core being about 20% quicker, the multicore is double the speed and only 65W TDP vs 88W TDP and only cost around £250 after I sold off my old bits.

Re: X570 motherboard/AM4/future upgrades, AMD says it is supporting up to 2020. After that there may be a new socket, however I do think AMD will pump out a few more AM4 cpus even beyond the 3950X.
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x299x boards are a LOT Cheaper then TRX40/80 thats for sure !!!!!!

Mark up of x570 (Master £370) over z390 (Master £260) was £120 odd due to swapping a few PCIe 3.0 to 4, swapping X399 boards to PCIe 4.0 is going to hurt ! X399 xtreme is £450 so expect TRX Version to be £650 easily

if any one is reading this and wants to gun for intel 18 core or TR 48 cores (guessing there will be 64 cores for WRX80) then use the newest Gen boards , need the phases
 
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