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Upgrade to RX 5700 XT from Vega 64 now?

malachi

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Title says its all really :)

Got my gaming HTPC with a Vega 64, 16gb ram and Ryzen 2700x, which is connected to my 65" OLED 4K TV.

With the 5700 XT been out for a few months and drivers had time to mature. Is it worth upgrading from the Vega 64 to 5700 XT for 4K gaming?
 
Have a V64 myself. Having only just slapped a waterblock on it, I'll be holding on for another generation or two... But then I'm on 1440p so a different kettle of fish- it performs perfectly well for me.
I imagine 4K will play to the 5700XT as it will be more optimised for it.

There's some beefier Navi cards in the pipeline, apparently. The V64 is still a pretty good card- might be worth seeing what pops up next from AMD.
 
Its almost a side-grade. Some 10-20% performance improvement doesn't feel worth it. Still not enough for 4k
Unless power consumption and/or noise with V64 is a problem

Wait for big Navi
 
malachi said:
Title says its all really :)

Got my gaming HTPC with a Vega 64, 16gb ram and Ryzen 2700x, which is connected to my 65" OLED 4K TV.

With the 5700 XT been out for a few months and drivers had time to mature. Is it worth upgrading from the Vega 64 to 5700 XT for 4K gaming?
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Depends games. DX11 games yes, saw 30%-40% performance increase between Vega 64 and 5700XT AE (eg WOT, ESO).
DX12 games the different was smaller. Vulkan games (X4) saw 25% perf increase.

Have a look at reviews also but those with Vega 64 LC against the 5700XT. As the V64LC is more representative to AIB, watercooled and undervolted Vega 64 found on peoples PCs.
(there at least 1 review on this). Then make your mind.

Update : Found the review.
https://babeltechreviews.com/the-rx...cooled-rx-vega-64-and-vs-nvidias-super-cards/

Take note the benchmark is with 19.7.1 since then the other drivers have improved the 5700XT performance.
 
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Panos said:
Depends games. DX11 games yes, saw 30%-40% performance increase between Vega 64 and 5700XT AE (eg WOT, ESO).
DX12 games the different was smaller. Vulkan games (X4) saw 25% perf increase.

Have a look at reviews also but those with Vega 64 LC against the 5700XT. As the V64LC is more representative to AIB, watercooled and undervolted Vega 64 found on peoples PCs.
(there at least 1 review on this). Then make your mind.

Update : Found the review.
https://babeltechreviews.com/the-rx...cooled-rx-vega-64-and-vs-nvidias-super-cards/

Take note the benchmark is with 19.7.1 since then the other drivers have improved the 5700XT performance.
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Thanks,

All the games I play are DX12 games such as Gears 5, the latest Tomb Raider, Bloodstained etc.

robfosters said:
I went from a V64 to 2070 super and have definitely noticed good improvement.

I also prefer selling my cards when they still hold good value.
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I might just pay the extra if I decide to sell my V64 or I could go for the 2080 Super.

I still have a few weeks to save, so I see what happens. If Black Friday and Cyber Monday have anything good then I might upgrade.
 
malachi said:
Thanks,

All the games I play are DX12 games such as Gears 5, the latest Tomb Raider, Bloodstained etc.



I might just pay the extra if I decide to sell my V64 or I could go for the 2080 Super.

I still have a few weeks to save, so I see what happens. If Black Friday and Cyber Monday have anything good then I might upgrade.
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2080 super is the worst deal of the lot. Really not enough of an improvement over the 2070S to justify another £200-250.
 
Spotting the all important detail "4K".
Then nope Navi is not even worth thinking about. Yes Navi and now Vega support Ris in dx9/12 and vulkan so maybe that's an alternative to native 4k, or until dx11 is supported.

I won't be swapping out my lc64 for a Navi.
 
Hard to say. New cards will be out in a year. What's the performance gonna cost next year (at a 2080 ti level); less than 899? Probably. But by how much. And how much would a year of having a 2080 ti be worth to you compared to waiting. It's also a question of what are you hoping to get out of it. Clearly V64 can't max out 4K and get 60 fps, but you can get close with a few tweaks and some 10-20% resolution reduction (and even if you sit 1m away from the TV like me, it's not very noticeable). On the other hand, a 2080 ti can't go all out at 4K either, and especially not with RT. So either way you'll have to compromise, the question is then which compromises are you more willing to make and is the 2080 ti gonna give you an experience worth paying £899.

No one can answer that except yourself. Make some targets of what you want to get out of the games you're already playing & see if the 2080 ti can deliver than. Then ask yourself if you'd pay that much for them. I also have a V64 & play at 4K but decided to wait it out. For me the reasoning is this: higher framerates are nice but the V64 already delivers a good enough playable experience for me (and I tend to max out settings, with few exceptions that are far into diminishing returns realms) & it's easily tweakable to get that magic 60 fps when I feel like it. What I want next from a GPU is to push graphics even further, more so than get more fps, so there's only 2 options: Resolution & Ray tracing. For the most part a 2080 ti would handle the resolution increases fine, where applicable (since not a lot of games scale that well with resolution even to 4K let alone past it), but for ray tracing it would be disappointing at 4K and I'd want to jump on the next GPU anyway. So might as well wait, since RT games are slow to come out anyway and implementations usually happen months after their launch.

My targets are these (for the graphics-heavy games): 4K >30 fps w/ RT fully on (eg Control), 8K 30 fps, 5K >40fps, and hardware wise it's definitely going to need 16gb of vram. But hey, that's my tastes, I'm sure some would rather just push 4K >60fps.
 
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