Actual Police State

You seem to have a view of the uk legal system that is rather divorced from reality. Both criminal and civil laws are not purely reactive to the committing of an act itself.

You are aware of the concept of conspiracy in English law, for example?

https://www.lawtonslaw.co.uk/resources/conspiracy/

Or the granting of injunctions to prevent things happening?

Both of which require a burden of proof that has not been met.
If it's as lovely and simple as you seem to think it is could you explain why a number of politicians, lawyers and even the mayor of London are challenging the Mets actions?
 
Both of which require a burden of proof that has not been met.
If it's as lovely and simple as you seem to think it is could you explain why a number of politicians, lawyers and even the mayor of London are challenging the Mets actions?

I don't get why you are finding this so hard to grasp. There are the usual suspects that will always criticise the Met regardless, no names needed and Kahn has an axe to grind after the stop search fiasco.

There is a thing called a Section 35 dispersal order which is commonly used, which also breaches article 11. Banning certain groups from attending a location for risk of disorder is nothing new. The EDL was banned from Luton town centre for exactly the same thing. XR have openly stated their goal is to bring London to a standstill, not protest, not raise awareness, to disrupt.
 
You seem to have a view of the uk legal system that is rather divorced from reality. Both criminal and civil laws are not purely reactive to the committing of an act itself.

You are aware of the concept of conspiracy in English law, for example?

https://www.lawtonslaw.co.uk/resources/conspiracy/

Or the granting of injunctions to prevent things happening?
Sensible centre ground.
 
Just getting ready to ban the far right and doing some practice runs.

:^)

You're giving them what they want btw, you shouldn't look at this as a win if you feel that way.
 
I'm debating starting a group/petition to agree to "peacefully remove" the protestors and see how many Londoners agree! I can't fathom why they think this is a good idea. Idiots :rolleyes:

Like you said, idiots.

How about go to China, protest there since they quite simply don't give a toss with the amount of coal plants they have? As opposed to terrorising your own country where some days we don't even turn ours on ffs.

I'd have the whole lot of them locked up at this juncture. Bunch of ***** that need a good ******* slap in my opinion.
 
Extinction Rebellion set to bring chaos to London Underground as they expand protests to target Tube

I'm debating starting a group/petition to agree to "peacefully remove" the protestors and see how many Londoners agree!
I told ya so...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716 lol that's exactly what Londoners think of them trying to shut down the Tube. And Canning Town of all stations, the worst choice!

PS: Is there audio on that clip? I don't get any :confused:
 
I imagine the audio is just constant f words tbh lol.
Yeah the Independent had it, just general shouting etc. I couldn't believe they were going to disrupt the Tube. But turns out they actually targeted the DLR as well, the only fully-electric part of the network! Morons!
 
I told ya so...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716 lol that's exactly what Londoners think of them trying to shut down the Tube. And Canning Town of all stations, the worst choice!

PS: Is there audio on that clip? I don't get any :confused:
Splitters.

XR had a vote and said no to targeting the tubes, these lone wolves did it without the backing of the group at large according to Twitter.
 
Splitters.

XR had a vote and said no to targeting the tubes, these lone wolves did it without the backing of the group at large according to Twitter.

Its almost as if we shouldn't be taking any lessons im how to run our society and economies from a disparate bunch that includes the usual rent a mob protest anything types, anarchists, and hard core Marxists some of whom Co founded the whole thing..... but who actually publically state that ER has at its core got very little to do with saving the plant and more to do with destroying the usual list of the white, heterosexual, patriarchal, cis gendered capitalist western world.....


Just ask Co founder Stuart Basden...

Extinction Rebellion isn’t about the Climate

Er is full of 'watermelons' , especially at the top end.... Failed socialists who are trying to destroy western society though the trojan house of climate concern whilst pretending they have the answer to environmental issues.
 
Its almost as if we shouldn't be taking any lessons im how to run our society and economies from a disparate bunch that includes the usual rent a mob protest anything types, anarchists, and hard core Marxists some of whom Co founded the whole thing..... but who actually publically state that ER has at its core got very little to do with saving the plant and more to do with destroying the usual list of the white, heterosexual, patriarchal, cis gendered capitalist western world.....


Just ask Co founder Stuart Basden...

Extinction Rebellion isn’t about the Climate

Er is full of 'watermelons' , especially at the top end.... Failed socialists who are trying to destroy western society though the trojan house of climate concern whilst pretending they have the answer to environmental issues.

Lol next you'll be blaming Soros and the trifecta of contradictory classical liberal bingo will be complete.

Maybe Western society deserves it?
 
Lol next you'll be blaming Soros and the trifecta of contradictory classical liberal bingo will be complete.

Maybe Western society deserves it?

Its hardly a conspiracy theory when a Co founder is blogging about it now is it...?

You burn your house down if your want.....

.... ill argue against these lunatics are their desire to tear everything down over their misplaced and often racist and sexist ideas of what's apparently wrong with society
 
Its hardly a conspiracy theory when a Co founder is blogging about it now is it...?

You burn your house down if your want.....

.... ill argue against these lunatics are their desire to tear everything down over their misplaced and often racist and sexist ideas of what's apparently wrong with society

Ironic considering the last few years.
 
Well...I was dismissive in another thread recently of a guy who claimed we were living in a police state. I may have to change my tune following the actions of the met...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50051279

http://news.met.police.uk/news/arrests-in-connection-with-extinction-rebellion-protests-383815

Banning any right to peaceful protest is going too far and reminds me of such fine diplomacys as China, Burma and Iran.

By all means arrest those breaking laws but don't start blanket bans or...the next step...changing laws.

Could you define "peaceful protest" please?
The moment those protests invade the freedom of the rest to go to work, home, shopping etc, have stopped been peaceful and need to be dealt with by the authorities. That is not police state.

Police state, is when you have mass surveillance and constant monitoring, or secret courts that nobody can report about, as UK does.
When you have the government putting on election manifesto things like the need for UK wide firewall to "protect the people".
Similarly when you have several taxpayer funded dubious organizations to create the media narrative, steering the public perception and opinion to where the system wants.

Sure you can point the finger to China or Myanmar (is not called Burma) but even Freedom of speech & expression is been attacked today in UK little by little.
 
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