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I buy a PC about once every 10 years and tend to buy the best I can at the time. I bought my last rig in 2009 and it's only now that it's beginning to really show its age (i.e. it doesn't even think about playing modern games :-) ). That's 'cos I bought sensibly last time but that was also when I knew all the ins and outs of the tech which has now slipped me by.
So... feel free to choose me a mobo that's going to have the legs to get me a good few years into the next decade (and will not blow up one month after the warranty expires).
I don't care if it's AMD or Intel but I'll obviously have an eye for future upgradeability for both the CPU and GPU.
I will also never overclock or tweak anything so I don't need that sort of mobo. I need a thoroughbred rather than a steroidal stallion :-D !

Thanks :-)

Chris.
 
Intel change socket every two generations, AMD far less often. But we have no idea if AM4 is going to be superseded any time soon. It has been around for a while now.

That said .. go for an X570 board with 3 NVMe slots and three PCIe x16 slots (they won't all work at x16 but that's OK) and you ought to be set for quite a while.
 
Cool - thanks :D - but goddam, I do hate this fad for RGB... :( - we're not all lowered-suspension bass-pumping huge-spoiler corsa drivers... ah well :)
 
Very tastefully done RGB. Can switch it off as well if you wanna.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £780.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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Intel change socket every two generations, AMD far less often. But we have no idea if AM4 is going to be superseded any time soon. It has been around for a while now.
Intel changes socket for every second rebranding of same Skylake architecture, with third socket on its way.
And this time actually with more than BIOS incompatibility difference, because of 10 core Skylake propably needing more power than current socket handles comfortably.

For AMD new AM5 socket comes out in 2021 when DDR5 starts being more common.
Assuming DDR5 goes into any kind production in next year instead of keeping waiting for Intel's 10nm...
DDR5 and Intel's 10nm were originally supposed to be ready at the same time.
While AMD could possibly offer Zen3's successor also on DDR4 platform because of chiplet design, that's unlikely by being extra work and logistics.
 
Would you be willing to make a recommendation?
teasing aside (i doubt you'll really spend ~£800 on a mobo), a very decent one like the asus x570 tuf gaming wifi will probably suffice for ~£220

Under power does that have HPET toggle for OFF in bios? I seen someone on Youtube wih X570 Aorus Master and it was there.
not sure to be honest. but seeing as the xtreme is the halo tier, if the master has the hpet toggle, if i was a betting man, i'd say that the xtreme will probably have it too...
 
I'll be honest and say I get about 10% of that :D
Would you be willing to make a recommendation?
I'm sure you know how Intel claims they're on "9th generation" Core CPUs now.
Well, architecturally it's basically still same old 6th gen Skylake from 2016.

"7th" gen Kaby Lake was only slight clock speed tweak and should have been like 6th gen 6750K/6770K or something like that.
And 8th gen Coffee on their pants, err on Lake is nothing more than two extra cores of same architecture, just like "9th" gen.
Maybe that 7th gen designation could have been justified for finally improving from core count reached only 12 years earlier.
And while officially needing new motherboards, that was nothing but artificial limitation to force people into buying new motherboards for making Intel richer:
https://www.techpowerup.com/250109/...0-ghz-overclock-on-a-z170-chipset-motherboard
That's Intel's vision of consumer friendliness for you...

And Intel's this winter's "10th" gen Comedy... Comet Lake coming into shops maybe even for spring is another re-spin of Skylake.
This time instead of just making it incompatible at BIOS level socket changes physically to one with higher contact/pin count.
Probably because of already 8 core 9900K having more like 200W honest max power consumption and 10 such cores makes it 250W.

Then unless Intel wants to be left out of DDR5 memory train they'll have to make another new socket in 2021.
Possibly for another rebranding of same old Skylake on same old 14nm+++++++ manufacturing process.
Because it looks like Intel's 10nm manufacturing process won't ever produce high end desktop CPU.


In short best you can ever get for current Intel platform will be 8 core/16 thread 9900K.
While AMD's AM4 is already getting 16 core/32 thread Zen2 released soon.
And by updating BIOS X570 motherboards will be compatible with next year's Zen3 architecture Ryzens.
Which improves performance and should make nice priced upgrade option around 2021-22, because AMD lowers prices of old models.

Good news in X570 motherboards is that unlike in B450/X470 boards you don't need to pay luxury for getting competent CPU VRM. (Voltage Regulation Module)
While Asrock has whole lower end using outdated design VRM made from super cheap components and MSI just copypasted old B450 board VRM, Asus and Gigabyte learned from their scam level VRMs.
Even the cheapest Asus X570 board, Prime X570-P has modern VRM easily good for coming 16 core CPU.
Also Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite has good modern design and efficiency VRM.

Besides being pretty darn well featured and with some nice design choises.
Unlike in most X570 boards Gigabyte put X570 chipset cooler farther from graphics card's slot and heat pushed out by GPUs.
That should help in keeping fan's noise down besides slowing down wear when it doesn't have to run as fast.
It has Intel NIC, which are considered very reliable and well supported.
Also it has two USB3 headers (four USB-As) and one USB-C header (one USB-C) for front connectors of the case.
Expansion card slots are well positioned and it has one x4 slot and two x1 slots which are completely free of electrical or physical conflicts with graphics card's slot.
With x4 slot capable to taking M.2 NVMe drive using cheap adapters and x1 PCIe v4 slot having enough bandwidth for 10Gbit NIC.
And there's no worries about messing BIOS update, because you can overwrite BIOS from USB stick without PC able to power on, or even without whole CPU.

As negative Gigabyte should have left out that IO-"shroud" fashion trash, which only lowers airflow around VRM heatsink.
But at least that garbage can be removed easily by experienced user knowing what to do.
And basic level SOC (non-cores part of CPU) VRM wouldn't be that great for APU with integrated GPU. But normal Ryzens won't ever make it work hard.
 
So... feel free to choose me a mobo that's going to have the legs to get me a good few years into the next decade (and will not blow up one month after the warranty expires).


You might want to wait a few weeks to see how good (or otherwise) the new Threadripper chips are.
 
Thanks everyone.

The advice is genuinely enlightening and informative and is giving me scope for making a properly informed choice.
I'm actually not going to be buying until the back end of November so I'll definitely bear the 'Threadripper' advice in mind.

cheers :-)

Chris.
 
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