Ryzen 5 3600 and b450 boards

david George · 27 Oct 2019 at 15:31

I am getting compatibility warnings when I add a B450 board to a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU.
The board needs it's bios updated apparently
How do you manage to update the bios?
Does the pc still boot up when first switched after it has been built even though parts are not compatible?

Minibiker · 27 Oct 2019 at 15:35

What board have you currently got? Have you purchased the 3600 yet?

david George · 27 Oct 2019 at 16:25

No, I have not bought anything yet, just trying to work out what to buy.

Gray2233 · 27 Oct 2019 at 16:34

The only B450 boards that will work out of the box with the new Ryzen chips are the MSI "Max" boards afaik. You'll need to flash most if not all other b450's, although I believe some will allow you to do this from USB without having a CPU installed.

david George · 27 Oct 2019 at 16:42

Ok, thanks

lee32uk · 27 Oct 2019 at 16:43

david George said:
No, I have not bought anything yet, just trying to work out what to buy.

As mentioned above, the MAX boards don't need a bios update. The MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX or MSI B450M Mortar MAX if you need/want mATX are both good options.

Minibiker · 27 Oct 2019 at 16:44

As @Gray2233 says, the MSI Max boards will work out the box with Ryzen 3000... I think a couple of Asus boards have a USB flash option but others will require Older Gen CPU's

david George · 27 Oct 2019 at 17:07

Right thanks guys, off to partpickers to check

david George · 28 Oct 2019 at 09:08

lee32uk said:
As mentioned above, the MAX boards don't need a bios update. The MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX or MSI B450M Mortar MAX if you need/want mATX are both good options.

I have added the MSI B450 Thomahawk MAX ATX A4 motherboard to my build and still get the same warning
“Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs”
I assume I can ignore this warning then

Minibiker · 28 Oct 2019 at 09:16

Yeah

david George said:
I have added the MSI B450 Thomahawk MAX ATX A4 motherboard to my build and still get the same warning
“Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs”
I assume I can ignore this warning then

A few members on here have had the MSI B450 boards with the new Ryzen CPU... Maybe worth doing a search and read up but I'm 90% sure all things have been fine

Matt_West_Mids · 28 Oct 2019 at 10:29

david George said:
I have added the MSI B450 Thomahawk MAX ATX A4 motherboard to my build and still get the same warning
“Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs”
I assume I can ignore this warning then

Yes the website still gives the warning whatever B450 board you choose, does the same on my build aslong as it's a MAX board it will work out of the box with no updates needed.

lee32uk · 28 Oct 2019 at 10:38

david George said:
I have added the MSI B450 Thomahawk MAX ATX A4 motherboard to my build and still get the same warning
“Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs”
I assume I can ignore this warning then

Yes you can ignore the warning. You can actually see the 'AMD Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready' on the Motherboard box on MSI website if you want confirmation

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/Gallery

WozzaX · 28 Oct 2019 at 10:45

I am hoping this doesnt happen on X570 boards

lee32uk · 28 Oct 2019 at 11:04

WozzaX said:
I am hoping this doesnt happen on X570 boards

Why would it ? The X570 chipset was released at the same time as the 3000 series cpu's.

WozzaX · 28 Oct 2019 at 11:14

lee32uk said:
Why would it ? The X570 chipset was released at the same time as the 3000 series cpu's.

Because thats what I am using on my next build and it's been a while since I have delved into building pc's never mind AMD ones.

david George · 28 Oct 2019 at 11:24

Thanks for all the tips guys, I have put a set of components together on pc partpickers.
I will post on here and ask for your views on it, if you don't mind

Minibiker · 28 Oct 2019 at 11:40

WozzaX said:
Because thats what I am using on my next build and it's been a while since I have delved into building pc's never mind AMD ones.

X570 boards were designed for Ryzen 3000 series so you'll be 100% fine

WozzaX · 28 Oct 2019 at 11:49

Now all I need to decide is between the 3600 and the 3700X.

david George · 28 Oct 2019 at 12:16

Here is my pick list
Ryzen 5 3600
MSI B450 THOMAHAWK MAX
Corsair vengeance 16GB DDR4 3200 memory
Crucial MX500 1Tb 2.5" SSD
MSI Radeon RX580 Video card
Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ power supply
NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case

Total is £814.31

Any advice welcome

Matt_West_Mids · 28 Oct 2019 at 12:43

david George said:
Here is my pick list
Ryzen 5 3600
MSI B450 THOMAHAWK MAX
Corsair vengeance 16GB DDR4 3200 memory
Crucial MX500 1Tb 2.5" SSD
MSI Radeon RX580 Video card
Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ power supply
NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case

Total is £814.31

Any advice welcome

Solid build in the main. If it was me I'd switch the SSD you've put to the sabarent rocket £109 maybe up the the PSU to 650 watts for some headroom a good unit like below. I've also heard some bad things about the airflow in that case but others with more experience would be better off advising.

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My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Corsair RM Series RM650 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020194-UK)= £89.99

Total: £98.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)