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I should know better...GTX 1080 upgrade advice

3t3P

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So I need additional rasterisation performance (with the advent of ray tracing feel this is a legitimate qualifing statement), usually I only upgrade when 30% or more is available and that's pretty much what I need right now too.

So i'm on the hunt this black friday for a GPU and wanted to garner opinion as it's doing my head in (you know when its gone completely irrational and the man maths is continuous day and night!)

Gaming at 3440x1440 up to 120hz, i'll give AAA titles a go when they take my fancy and high/ultra is my aim (or get a console ammirite).

60fps is a minimum but prefer 80+ for shooters.

I didn't get the 1080Ti two years ago and regret it as it turned out to be a great GPU and I wouldn't be here if I had got one! So don't want to make that mistake again for the sake of ~£200.

2070 Super gets me to just under 1080TI perf at stock frequencies, sorta an upgrade and cheaper than 1080Ti back in the day. Bit frustrating that it 'only' equals a 1080Ti though. Cheap/affordable.

2080; yeh could look for one at £600 or sub that around BF, but may as well get...

The 2080 Super; for me makes more sense and yes it's precisely the reason it sits between the 2070S and the 2080 Ti that it's a better fit for me at my res. Cheapest in UK is the OCUK KFA2 £660 ish. doable.

It's also ~15% faster than a 1080Ti. Overclocked can start to nip on heels of the 2080Ti

I know there's gonna be 'wait for ampere'. Maybe it will launch with CP 2077. Maybe announcement will be June though with a scarcity of cards into aug/sept and Nvidia go back to **80 first and a Ti 6-12 months later thus making the **80 product expensive ++

Selling my GTX 1080 while it's worth 'something' will soften the blow and if i'm DESPERATE next year or in 2020 to upgrade again at least I can sell a 20 series card and only be one generation out i.e recoup costs better.

My own rule is usually if something is for sure coming in three months, wait. But if you need the perf now then go for it.

Ray tracing i'm ignoring for now in all of this as even the 2080Ti is going to struggle with RT enabled at 5MP.
 
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I wouldnt bother with the 2080 Super the difference over the normal 2080 is a lot smaller than between 2070 to 2070S.

Look for BF 2080 bargains if you cant wait till next year.
 
I'm in a similar situation, currently have a 1080 and looking to upgrade black Friday.

I game at 1440 on a 144hz monitor and also play games in VR and have been looking a 2080's. For me this is the last upgrade I need as I feel the 1080 is holding back the rest of the system.
 
varkanoid said:
I wouldnt bother with the 2080 Super the difference over the normal 2080 is a lot smaller than between 2070 to 2070S.

Look for BF 2080 bargains if you cant wait till next year.
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True but I like the idea that the 2080S is the full chip/part with higher TDP that may get a bit more out of watercooling. There's a bit more to them when oc'd compared to the outgoing 2080.
 
I was in the same boat with a 1080 gaming at 3440x1440 on a 120hz monitor.
Decided to go 1080 Ti and wait until next year when the 3xxx series is released as I didn't think going 2080 super was worth the extra money.
 
judmann said:
I was in the same boat with a 1080 gaming at 3440x1440 on a 120hz monitor.
Decided to go 1080 Ti and wait until next year when the 3xxx series is released as I didn't think going 2080 super was worth the extra money.
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I agree I think its crazy to go for a 2xxx series now when there will be a new card next year Cyberpunk is going to sell a lot of 3xxx cards mark my words.
 
I also have a 1080, running 1440p 100Hz.

I am just not upgrading. The price of significantly faster cards is absurd, the performance of similarly priced cards is not good enough. With full watercooling it's even worse.

Fortunately it's performing very well in every game I play so I don't need to upgrade.
 
3t3P said:
There's always a new card next year?! How do you ever buy anything?
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Cards are extremely overpriced as demand is so high.

If demand goes down so will prices. It makes sense now more than ever to wait until a real bargain comes along.

I have a 1080 too been itching for an upgrade too but realised it's throwing hundreds if not a thousand pounds away for barely any improvement.

I've made the decision to never pay more than £300 for a card. I was seriously thinking of going back to 1080p too. Pc gaming is going to be shaken up next year when the ps5 launches next year. I'm betting gpu prices plummet after it's launch give it a few months and see. So I'm willing to wait until January / February 2021 for my next upgrade to get real value for money
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Cards are extremely overpriced as demand is so high.

If demand goes down so will prices. It makes sense now more than ever to wait until a real bargain comes along.

I have a 1080 too been itching for an upgrade too but realised it's throwing hundreds if not a thousand pounds away for barely any improvement.

I've made the decision to never pay more than £300 for a card. I was seriously thinking of going back to 1080p too. Pc gaming is going to be shaken up next year when the ps5 launches next year. I'm betting gpu prices plummet after it's launch give it a few months and see. So I'm willing to wait until January / February 2021 for my next upgrade to get real value for money
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When AMD cards go EOL they seem to go half of their launch price, so I'd imagine a big Navi 5800 going EOL will be a big upgrade for 1080 owners. Although given that hasn't launched yet who knows when that'll happen. Maybe in 12-18 months we'll see the 5700 and 5700 XT prices tumble. If you flash the 5700 with an XT bios it supposedly performs as well as an XT


Nvidia don't seem to be heavily discounted when EOL in the same way
 
I'll wait for the 3060 super for my next card or the 2660 super both should give a tiny boost in performance. I should be able to sell my 1080 for £100-£150 to offset half the cost.

I'd rather not purchase AMD because of G-Sync. I was tempted to buy AMD but decided against it due to my monitor.
 
I was in the exact same position as you about 2 months ago. I decided to get one of the faster 2080 cards. it worked for me for a few reasons. Its a big jump actually over my gtx1080. I can enjoy RTX which to me is a massive benefit (despite naysayers saying its not workable on this generation RTX cards - b**locks to the naysayers)

I was able to sell my gtx1080 for a decent price - £275 - that same card will be worthless probably next year.

Also the 2080 i got was a very high end model and very expensive at launch - its as fast as a stock 2080S ( i know you can OC a 2080s) - it was being sold at a great price a few months ago so i snapped one up. Its a very high OC at stock out of box and the memory being samsung allows the memory to be highly OCed

https://www.zotac.com/gb/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-2080-amp-extreme
 
sunshinewelly said:
I was in the exact same position as you about 2 months ago. I decided to get one of the faster 2080 cards. it worked for me for a few reasons. Its a big jump actually over my gtx1080. I can enjoy RTX which to me is a massive benefit (despite naysayers saying its not workable on this generation RTX cards - b**locks to the naysayers)

I was able to sell my gtx1080 for a decent price - £275 - that same card will be worthless probably next year.

Also the 2080 i got was a very high end model and very expensive at launch - its as fast as a stock 2080S ( i know you can OC a 2080s) - it was being sold at a great price a few months ago so i snapped one up. Its a very high OC at stock out of box and the memory being samsung allows the memory to be highly OCed

https://www.zotac.com/gb/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-2080-amp-extreme
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Not good for the OP as he mentioned watercooling and Zotac dont honour the warranty for removing the cooler.

3t3P said:
There's always a new card next year?! How do you ever buy anything?
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Plenty of people do though. You can ask as many people you like for their opinion but then it comes down to a question only you can answer.

Available Cash v Wanting a new card v benefit it will give you v can I wait till the next ones are out

Basically you ask your self >

You could say buy the 2080S and get a bit for the 1080 then see if you want a 3xxx next
Or keep the 1080 and save up some money for the 3xxx

Which will give you the most enjoyment (forget benefit) and cost the least/can afford.
 
Yeh reading your post knew it would be the zotac amp extreme 2080. Problem is no waterblocks for it?

Hear what you are saying re the GTX 1080 still being worth something and not worthless. I find that situation 'upsetting' when you sell and don't get much back.

Tempted to keep one eye closed and one open come BF lol
 
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