Opinions on the "small SUV" type cars?

A few of the small turbo engines seem to have issues. The 1.4 Polo GTI as well :\

Drinking oil like petrol is normal according to VW.
 
My wife and I are looking at T-roc R Friday, test drove a golf R which was good but the boot is so much smaller than our civic we thought we’d have a look. The cars foot print is actually smaller than a golf but more practical. Also with the increase in disgraceful speed bumps locally reducing risk of scraping a new car seems of some benefit
 
My wife and I are looking at T-roc R Friday, test drove a golf R which was good but the boot is so much smaller than our civic we thought we’d have a look. The cars foot print is actually smaller than a golf but more practical. Also with the increase in disgraceful speed bumps locally reducing risk of scraping a new car seems of some benefit

Seems like a totally pointless car. A T Roc R, lol.
 
Against the grain of this thread, i really love SUVs.

I bought an X3 not long ago (3L Diesel, fantastic engine IMO). The speed it can carry in comfort through single track lanes around my area (we are soon to be moving down a 3-4 mile no through single track with bad maintenance) is far in excess of most normal cars. My other car is an E-Class Merc and quite frankly the alloys would all be buckled and broken, and the car would shake itself (and me) to bits if i tried to drive it at anything like the pace of the X3.

My ideal car would be an X5/ML/GLE/Cayenne really, if i didnt do high motorway mileage on top of this. Given free roam i dont think that i would never consider a non SUV as a "daily driver" (i hate that term!). Sadly when your employer ultimately funds your high mileage commuting car and you keep the excess, they aren't very suitable.

Edit: Also had a Range Rover a while ago, again, utterly fabulous car. It would glide over everything on its air suspension.
 
If you look at anything VAG avoid the 1.5 engine like the plague. 2 years of people fighting VW group because of cars kangarooing. I ordered a 1.5 T-Roc because funnily enough they had loads and very few Autos when I read the honest John review/write up/ reader comments on the 1.5. Then I looked on the various forums that 1.5 is fitted to and I ran away fast!

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/o...-acknowledges-problem-with-15-tsi-evo-engine/

or the 100 odd pages on the karoq:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/446820-15-sel-first-gear-issue/page/5/

or 200 pages on T-ROC:

https://www.trocforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=266&start=760

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/n...-sight-for-volkswagen-15-tsi-engine-problems/

Quite how they are avoiding this in the mainstream press is baffling.

Latest reports seem to be saying they've finally fixed this with a firmware update.
 
Against the grain of this thread, i really love SUVs.

I bought an X3 not long ago (3L Diesel, fantastic engine IMO). The speed it can carry in comfort through single track lanes around my area (we are soon to be moving down a 3-4 mile no through single track with bad maintenance) is far in excess of most normal cars. My other car is an E-Class Merc and quite frankly the alloys would all be buckled and broken, and the car would shake itself (and me) to bits if i tried to drive it at anything like the pace of the X3.

My ideal car would be an X5/ML/GLE/Cayenne really, if i didnt do high motorway mileage on top of this. Given free roam i dont think that i would never consider a non SUV as a "daily driver" (i hate that term!). Sadly when your employer ultimately funds your high mileage commuting car and you keep the excess, they aren't very suitable.

Edit: Also had a Range Rover a while ago, again, utterly fabulous car. It would glide over everything on its air suspension.

Are they small SUV type cars? :p
 
Are they small SUV type cars? :p
I was addressing the general SUV hate really as i really like them. I think the same would apply to these really small ones, though. They'd ride and cope better than the equivalent hatchback/saloon for people outside of the towns. (you would hope!).

I wouldnt want one, but then i dont "get" small cars at all in any form :p
 
I was addressing the general SUV hate really as i really like them. I think the same would apply to these really small ones, though. They'd ride and cope better than the equivalent hatchback/saloon for people outside of the towns. (you would hope!).

I reckon most of those front wheel drive ones with big wide alloys will be terrible come snow :)
 
I was addressing the general SUV hate really as i really like them. I think the same would apply to these really small ones, though. They'd ride and cope better than the equivalent hatchback/saloon for people outside of the towns. (you would hope!).

I'm not sure how they would unless they're 4/A wheel drive with more sophisticated suspension, which it seems most about are not.
 
I'm not sure how they would unless they're 4/A wheel drive with more sophisticated suspension, which it seems most about are not.
If i compare my X3 to a Saloon model BMW, it has bigger wheels, bigger sidewall tyres, (bigger rolling radius) as well as much more suspension travel. The weight which i can load it with seems far in excess to that which i would ever dare load any of my normal cars with, which indicates tougher suspension as well as the increased travel.

this may not apply to the really small ones like a T-Roc, admittedly :p
 
Can we all at least agree that things like the Fiesta Active and Focus Active are rubbish and pointless? What are they for?!

EDIT: Jesus, they do a Ka Active now too...
 
If i compare my X3 to a Saloon model BMW, it has bigger wheels, bigger sidewall tyres, (bigger rolling radius) as well as much more suspension travel. The weight which i can load it with seems far in excess to that which i would ever dare load any of my normal cars with, which indicates tougher suspension as well as the increased travel.

Which will be night and day driving around outside of town in the UK Outback. However could anyone ever drive B roads in a saloon?
 
Which will be night and day driving around outside of town in the UK Outback. However could anyone ever drive B roads in a saloon?
Refer a few posts up;
I bought an X3 not long ago (3L Diesel, fantastic engine IMO). The speed it can carry in comfort through single track lanes around my area (we are soon to be moving down a 3-4 mile no through single track with bad maintenance) is far in excess of most normal cars. My other car is an E-Class Merc and quite frankly the alloys would all be buckled and broken, and the car would shake itself (and me) to bits if i tried to drive it at anything like the pace of the X3.
 
Can we all at least agree that things like the Fiesta Active and Focus Active are rubbish and pointless?
why ?
a car that is only slightly taller, will preserve better economy and handling, besides they are attractive https://youtu.be/_sNV5p1n7co?t=53
I wonder how many people sepc the adaptive dampers versus some internal cosmetics


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The weight which i can load it with seems far in excess to that which i would ever dare load any of my normal cars
https://www.car.info/en-se/bmw/3-series/3-series-touring-f30-56475/specs
https://www.car.info/en-se/bmw/x3/x3-e83-facelift-150935/specs
~600Kg both .. remind me not to buy yours 2nd hand
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If you look at anything VAG avoid the 1.5 engine like the plague. 2 years of people fighting VW group because of cars kangarooing. I ordered a 1.5 T-Roc because funnily enough they had loads and very few Autos when I read the honest John review/write up/ reader comments on the 1.5. Then I looked on the various forums that 1.5 is fitted to and I ran away fast!

I've had a Seat Ibiza 1.5 TSI 150PS since March 2018 and never experienced the kangarooing. However Seat released a technical bulletin last month saying that an update with a fix for the issue was now available for the 150PS variant.
 
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