Which x570 board for new build

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Hello,

I'm not sure which x570 board to get with the below build, I need WiFi so either:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £225.94 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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Or maybe:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £526.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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Build that I'm considering:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,296.87 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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Thank you
 
snips86x said:
If you're using the 2nd m2 slot you'd loose pcie lanes 2,3,4,5. It's a solid board and well rated.
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Ah, does it - I thought the gen4 PCI was meant to have the bandwidth the take both M2 drives without losing other slots? I was looking at that board but that suggests there's a reason to go for one of the more expensive boards? For the OP, if they have wifi built in, the price difference becomes a bit less.

Just to flag to the OP, that Aorus Pro is a Mini-ITX board. I assume the choice is therefore between the Elite and the Ultra.
 
Thanks for clarifying. I'm frazzling my brain trying to figure out the differences in all these boards. Elite is currently top of my list too but that's subject to wrapping my head around power, particularly whether the ultra stands a better chance of being compatible with a big 4000 chip in the future.
 
Seearbe said:
Thanks for clarifying. I'm frazzling my brain trying to figure out the differences in all these boards. Elite is currently top of my list too but that's subject to wrapping my head around power, particularly whether the ultra stands a better chance of being compatible with a big 4000 chip in the future.
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Grab a gold or plat 750w PSU and you'll be fine. Zen 3 will slot straight in if you decide to upgrade
 
davidmt83 said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
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Why on earth would you pay that much for SATA drive when you can get NVMe drive for less?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...d-state-drive-cssd-f960gbmp510-hd-065-cs.html

Phanteks AMP is Seasonic Focus Gold in other clothes for near £20 save:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-amp-750w-80-plus-gold-modular-power-supply-ca-09r-pt.html

Scythe Mugen 5 is same level cooler for another £20 off.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scmg-5100-mugen-5-rev.b-cpu-cooler-hs-046-sy.html
(if wanting to spend could put 2x Arctic P12s into push-pull for total of £12)

Arctic P14 has 7 years better warranty than we charge luxury prices and give short warranty BeQuiet for £13 (£26 for two) less.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-cooling-p14-pwm-pst-black-fan-140mm-fg-04k-ar.html
 
snips86x said:
Grab a gold or plat 750w PSU and you'll be fine. Zen 3 will slot straight in if you decide to upgrade
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Yeah, that's where I was heading on psu. One of either corsair rm850 (2 x 8-pin connectors to the rm750's 1), rm750x or rm850x (because it's super quiet).

The power question was more about the 12v connectors - elite takes 8 pin, ultra takes 8+4 - and all this pwm nonsense which is starting to phase (sic!) me.
 
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davidmt83 said:
Cheers all, lots to think about.

One final question, which would you pick out of the Elite and...

My basket at overclockers uk:
Total: £219.95 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Features important to me:
- quiet fan / silent mode if available
- WiFi
- audio
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For me, elite with a wireless dongle (or try and find the elite wifi version) just not an N dongle, go AC minimum as most modern routers will support that.

The audio chips are the same on both boards. Gigabyte talk about audio shielding and solid capacitors on their website but that might just be marketing and not affect real world performance. Have a look at their website and it might make you feel good about yourself.

But noise. I've read that the chipset on the asus boards runs hotter than the elite, owing in part to the location of the cooling fan (under the GPU exhaust) compared to the elite (further down the board). @EsaT pointed this out to me. More heat = more fan usage.
 
I agree with that and I can say that my chipset fan is idle a lot of the time and I don't notice when it does come on. Personally, I am against integrated wifi in a board as it's not upgradeable and it's something that is likely to advance during the lifetime of the board.
The Elite also has Intel network adapter, rather than the Realtek on the TUF.

But to play devil's advocate;

The TUF has 8 sata ports against the 6 of the Elite.
The TUF also has more fan headers
The TUF has some RGB lighting, if that is important to you.
The additional 4-pin power connector on the TUF is optional and you'd probably never need it.
 
Seearbe said:
The audio chips are the same on both boards
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I lied.

The TUF Gaming uses a Realtek S1200A chip whereas the Elite uses either a Realtek ALC1200 or ALC1220 (I'm seeing some conflicting info - the manual says ALC1200 but the website says ALC1220). I can't actually find anything out about those two really but looking at the manufacturer's website blurb:

TUF Gaming - Realtek S1200A Codec: Pristine audio quality with unprecedented 108dB signal-to-noise ratio for stereo line-out and 103dB SNR for line-in
Elite -ALC1220 120dB(A) SNR HD Audio with Smart Headphone Amp automatically detects impedance of your head-worn audio device, preventing issues such as low volume and distortion. With the new VB series audio controller stream your voice to the world vibrantly with both front/rear microphone SNR up to 110/114dB(A).

So the Elite might have slightly better audio quality, according to the stats, apparently.

Anyway, you can look that all up for yourself here, although I am seeing some discrepencies in the data so double-check: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/
 
Seearbe said:
Yeah, that's where I was heading on psu. One of either corsair rm850 (2 x 8-pin connectors to the rm750's 1), rm750x or rm850x (because it's super quiet).

The power question was more about the 12v connectors - elite takes 8 pin, ultra takes 8+4 - and all this pwm nonsense which is starting to phase (sic!) me.
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The additional EPC connectors are just for CPU power should you need to overclock it more. The normal 8 pin will be fine and the difference between them is probably minimal (I've not compared them).

PWM is Pulse Width Modulation - it allows you to control the fans based on temp and they'll change dynamically. If all your fans are set to PWM and you start gaming, the motherboard temp sensors will increase the fan speed to shift more air due to heat. If you stop playing, they'll ramp down. This also works for CPU/GPU load.
 
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