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The FUTURE of Graphics

Not watched the video. But if the future of graphics is that £400 gets you an entry level GPU (2060 Super) then I imagine most folk will be buying streaming services like google stadia instead.

Luckily the only game I play runs at 300fps on any GPU so I'm cool. But for those that want 4K 120hz, etc then you may as well bend over and take it.

If this keeps going I'll try and stick with a <£400 GPU that can beat my current and do 1440p 165hz justice. However if that won't happen. I will when this monitor dies just go back to 1080p.

So backwards is the future.
 
Quartz said:
The 2060 is a long way off entry level. Entry level is the 1650. Mainstream is the 1660 Super. The 2060 Super and above are high end.
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It's funny how views have changed. Just 2 years ago. Everyone was saying not to buy 1060's as they weren't enough. Yet the 2060 Super is classed as high end?

No chance. High end is 2080 and above.

Mid End is 2070 and above.

Low end is 2060.

1660 - is budget. Basically those that want the absolute cheapest.
 
nashathedog said:
Thoughts?
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I made it through 30 seconds. That's a computer-generated voice reading a text. Awful.

Psycho Sonny said:
I'd call a 1650 a basic GPU for HTPC type PC's not a gaming pc.
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You might call it that but the industry speaks otherwise. A 1650 will play games fine at 1080p on a mix of low and medium settings. Now, if you want to game with Ultra settings then yes, a 2060 will work for 1080p. But guess what? You're not most people.
 
SonicSW20 said:
What do you think ENTRY LEVEL means?
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the 1660 series was created to basically fool people into thinking the other series were all higher than they are. i still stick by 2060 - low, 2070 mid and 2080 high.

the 1660 series shouldn't even be a thing. it is because they raised the prices of every series and had to make something cheaper. so the 1660 was born. to fill the gap created by raising all the rest.

1060 last year was entry level the 1050 was basically for HTPC's with mobile phone type gaming. now they have the 1030 for that job with 1660 as a better version if you need it.

Otherwise we could call those £30 GPU's entry level.
 
The 2060(s) is upper mid with the 1660 series covering the lower to middleground of the midrange segment.

The 1650 is entry level.

An "HTPC" or basic output card would be something along the following lines:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £134.93 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Honestly, I've not been posting here all that long despite my sign-up date, but half the stuff I see Psycho Sonny post is so unbelievably out of touch.

Cards such as the 1660 (or older 1060), and the RX570/RX580 on the other team, are very capable 1080p GPU's for 60fps gaming. You might need to turn some settings down here and there but they're more than competent for those ends. I've literally NEVER heard anyone claim the 1060 wasn't good enough performance for its intended user, in fact all I saw was a lot of praise for it by many. The only complaints I ever saw pertained to price compared to AMD.
 
Quartz said:
You are mistaken. Even the 1050 was streets better than the IGPs.
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I had a 1050. I immediately upgraded to a 1060 3GB and that was do-able for 1080p gaming as the 1050 was like a slideshow in PUBG. I still had to dial down settings for the 1060. I ended up getting a 1080 after a few months of owning that though.

Entry level fair enough is a 1660. But no way is the 2060 Super high end as is being claimed. It's low end.
 
It's all relative. Some people will expect to pay no more than £200 for a whole PC, let alone £200 for a GPU. I'm sort of conditioned to expect a good GPU to cost £500 or more, but I still can't get on board with £1200 for just a GPU being the norm or, dare I say, even acceptable. I would see a 2070S as the middle of the high end, with the top dogs being 2080Ti or the Titan stuff.

I still remember cringing in Maplin seeing "high end gaming cards" advertising the best performance signs next to a £150 GPU, the equivalent of today's GT1050 etc.
 
Quartz said:
And what were your FPS at Low settings? Don't get me wrong, better GPUs are indeed better but entry level is entry level for a reason.
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I can't remember exactly but I know PUBG was basically unplayable. I had to get a 1060 3GB to make it playable. It still wasn't great but at least I could play it now. I then ended up getting a 1080 because I had dual monitors. Basically I was playing CSGO on the 1440P screen with 144hz and then playing PUBG on the 1080P screen 60hz. I wanted to play both on the 1440P so that was the decision to go 1080 from the 1060.

The 1060 wasn't exactly flying I had to play at quite low settings even at 1080P for PUBG.

I wouldn't have really classed the 1050 as a modern day gaming card. It could do CSGO but anything can run that including integrated graphics.

With the 1050 being unplayable I would say 1060 6GB was the real low end GPU for 1080p and a half decent experience. 1070 if you wanted 1080P high refresh rates. 1080 and 1080ti was for 1440P and the ti catering for higher refresh rates.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
It's funny how views have changed. Just 2 years ago. Everyone was saying not to buy 1060's as they weren't enough. Yet the 2060 Super is classed as high end?

No chance. High end is 2080 and above.

Mid End is 2070 and above.

Low end is 2060.

1660 - is budget. Basically those that want the absolute cheapest.
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The days of deciding what Tier GPUs should be based on the name ended with Kepler.

That's where you are making the mistake, the 2060 isn't a replacement for the 1060, the 1660 is.
 
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