3700X or 3900X - Gigabyte X470 Aorus Elite or other X470/X570 board?

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I will soon be getting either a 3700X or 3900X either running at stock or happy with a milt overclock. I don't need the features of an X570 such as PCIE 4 or the ultra fast NVME drives. So I don't think I need an X570.

The Gigabyte X470 Aorus Elite seems to get good reviews. Is there any reason to consider a different X470 or the X570? I will be keeping this machine for 5+ years but am now only a casual gamer so I can't see me needing PCIE 4.

Thanks.
 
Hades said:
I will soon be getting either a 3700X or 3900X either running at stock or happy with a milt overclock. I don't need the features of an X570 such as PCIE 4 or the ultra fast NVME drives. So I don't think I need an X570.

The Gigabyte X470 Aorus Elite seems to get good reviews. Is there any reason to consider a different X470 or the X570? I will be keeping this machine for 5+ years but am now only a casual gamer so I can't see me needing PCIE 4.

Thanks.
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MSI B450 Max with 3700x . If your going 3900x then i'd grab X570 Aorus elite and run 1usmus Custom Power plan

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/1usmus-custom-power-plan-for-ryzen-3000-zen-2-processors/

vrm design wise is a different kettle of fish from b450 to x570 but ryzen 3700 doesn't need it .

x470 Aorus Ultra - not to be confused with x570 Aorus elite isn't the best x470/b450 board
 
Thanks. Yes even if I go 3700 right now I'd like it to be able to support 3900 or more later. I'll look at the 570.
 
Hades said:
Thanks. Yes even if I go 3700 right now I'd like it to be able to support 3900 or more later. I'll look at the 570.
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going higher then 12 cores (have feeling Zen3 will increase CCX core count of increase SMT numbers) then X570. Still hard to get info out on B550 - have a feeling AMD in no rush, specially with X570 being in house design and they get paid directly for vendors using the chips - so more profit

Aorus Elite is a cracking board, if your using high number of fans then grab a PWM fan Y spliter
 
Once again, Thanks. It's a little above budget but if it will give me options for growth in the future then it seems better value long term.
 
Hades said:
Once again, Thanks. It's a little above budget but if it will give me options for growth in the future then it seems better value long term.
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i quite like the Gaming X and budget Gigabtye UD X570 - phases are 10 but using high and low side mosfets (1h2l design) - better then most b450/x470 but not as well designed as Aorus boards

scroll to bottom of first post
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...ldzoid-ripple-tests-with-aorus-asus.18851489/

Gigabyte X570 UD is about £150- OCUK doesn't stock it !!! such a shame. OCUK have Gaming X on average Pricing £175 so a good £70 more then MSI B450 MAX

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/X570-UD-rev-10#kf

pair that up with these and your flying!

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £193.68 (includes shipping: £8.70)


@Plec i await to be slapped on wrist for UD x570.... or force OCUK to lower price of Gaming X a bit :D​
 
with the nvme drives... not pcie 4.0, which currently is pointless as all current 4.0 drives arent running as fast as they can go... 3.0 1tb drives match standard sata 3 ssd for pricing !
 
Hades said:
The Gigabyte X470 Aorus Elite seems to get good reviews.
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VRM of that board is in one word scam.
It's decent only for 65W TDP CPUs and 100W CPU would make it run hot/near throttling.
The Stilt has tested Gigabyte's B450 board with precisely same VRM and 2700X at stock settings doing x264 encoding pushed it over 100C.
Also use of PBO with 2600X pushed it to edge.

Already MSI's stronger than it B450 VRMs with higher quality FETs and two high side FETs per phase are flimsy in their current handling capability compared to X570 standards.
MSI used same MOSFETs in lower end X570 boards with these results:
No doubt that X470 Aorus Elite would give over doubled temperatures compared to X570 Aorus Elite in that...
Assuming it wouldn't explode and burn before that.


orbitalwalsh said:
i quite like the Gaming X and budget Gigabtye UD X570 - phases are 10 but using high and low side mosfets (1h2l design) - better then most b450/x470 but not as well designed as Aorus boards
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By X570 standards VRM of Gaming X is at best mediocre.
Only X570 boards it doesn't lose to are those MSI's B450 copypasta boards:
Though by removing that VRM cooling hindering plastic garbage it should do decently with 3900X.
 
@EsaT £150 Gaming UD (same as Gaming X) doing 82c with boards being £220 + beating it in temps isnt bad at all . Manually overclocking would def step up to Aorus Pro easily for 4.3ghz all cores

Though going from £150 to £260 is a big jump

Gigabyte have their Mosfet sensors closer then most, which is a bless and a curse im guessing for Gigabyte , and the asus issues recently with reporting vrm temps =/
 
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Audio hasn't got great reviews on the MSI B450s if that matters to you.
I wouldn't choose the UD or Gaming X if you plan 3900.

These tier lists are quite handy if you haven't already seen them:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o

As far as I can see there is nothing much left available in the x470 line up worth investing in save for the CH VII, and most will need an older CPU to BIOS update unless you can find something with flashback.
We need some decent B550 boards really.
 
RandomMonkeH said:
Audio hasn't got great reviews on the MSI B450s if that matters to you.
I wouldn't choose the UD or Gaming X if you plan 3900.

These tier lists are quite handy if you haven't already seen them:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o

As far as I can see there is nothing much left available in the x470 line up worth investing in save for the CH VII, and most will need an older CPU to BIOS update unless you can find something with flashback.
We need some decent B550 boards really.
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Gaming X is fine to run 3950x on its own devices . Doing any avx workloads then no. Been rated to 150c . Though personally would be floating around Aorus Pro pricing for that kind of CPU :)
 
Another one you could consider:
I have got a 3600x fitted in an ASUS Crosshair VII x470 motherboard (with 32GB RAM - 2x16GB).
It can be temperamental when booting but once up and running, it is stable and reliable.
(Boot issues seem to be BIOS related and I have found BIOS v2801 to be the best so far - the current latest BIOS v2901 crashes on startup)

If I was going to build it again, I would consider either one of the the Gigabyte Aorus x470 boards or the ASUS Crosshair VII x470.
 
lnoton said:
It feels as though unless you need something specific that the tomahawk doesn't have, you just get the tomahawk.
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depends, if overclocking 3900x manually, if going B450 then MSI ITX which is 6x 60amp integrated mosfets/ Asus B450 which is 4x50 amps or MSI B450 Carbon which is same VRM set up as Toma with 6 true phases (4+2) but some components are doubled - cant find vrm layout but few checklists state it at just being every so slightly wired up different from the Toma


easiest way to spot the difference to b450 toma and Carbon is chokes, 4 vs 8 - shows the difference with VRM set up
 
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