Contaminated petrol courtesy of Tesco

Simon · 20 Nov 2019 at 11:36

T

House said:
I love the idea of my local oily rag dealer running a fuel contamination test like something out of CSI/NCIS.
I spent the last 3 weeks specing up and pricing a Lab for a refinery, believe me they haven't got the gear.

Unless they are testing for something truly obvious (water so bad you can see it in the sample or particulates so bad you can see them) they aint finding anything.

I'm sure the car threw an error code related to fuel, but as people have said unless a lot of people at the same filling station have the same problem then I would imagine they are going to say its not their fault.

They could just send it to their friends at an oil company as a favour though.

^TANK^ · 20 Nov 2019 at 15:09

Tesco allegedly checked the pump at the petrol station I used and said there were no contaminants or reported problems with other cars during the time period I filled up.

I also dont believe a single word Honda said to me either as each person I dealt with kept singing a different tune. If I had to guess I'd put it down to condensation like some others have speculated in this thread.

Never the less I wont be puting cheap fuel in ever again as I only ever stuck Shell V Power in my last Honda and it never once went into limp penis mode in eight years.

tom_e · 20 Nov 2019 at 15:14

Acrotomophilia said:
Tesco allegedly checked the pump at the petrol station I used and said there were no contaminants or reported problems with other cars during the time period I filled up.

I also dont believe a single word Honda said to me either as each person I dealt with kept singing a different tune. If I had to guess I'd put it down to condensation like some others have speculated in this thread.

Never the less I wont be puting cheap fuel in ever again as I only ever stuck Shell V Power in my last Honda and it never once went into limp penis mode in eight years.

So their promised analysis paperwork never appeared then?

Diagro · 20 Nov 2019 at 19:14

Acrotomophilia said:
Tesco allegedly checked the pump at the petrol station I used and said there were no contaminants or reported problems with other cars during the time period I filled up.

I also dont believe a single word Honda said to me either as each person I dealt with kept singing a different tune. If I had to guess I'd put it down to condensation like some others have speculated in this thread.

Never the less I wont be puting cheap fuel in ever again as I only ever stuck Shell V Power in my last Honda and it never once went into limp penis mode in eight years.

Use Tesco momentum then?
Basically the same as shell vpower for 10-20p less per L.

Shell have also had their fair share of fuel station issues. Not limited to Tesco.

Simon · 20 Nov 2019 at 19:15

Hows it basically the same ?

Diagro · 20 Nov 2019 at 20:25

Simon said:
Hows it basically the same ?

Both 99 Ron... Both use 5% ethonol.
Both perform the same on dyno tests.

Absolutely no point in spending £6-£12 per tank on Vpower.

Simon · 22 Nov 2019 at 22:24

But very different additives that give the cleaning. There’s more than just octane and power. Most UK fuel will have 5% ethanol.

Minstadave · 22 Nov 2019 at 22:36

Simon said:
But very different additives that give the cleaning. There’s more than just octane and power. Most UK fuel will have 5% ethanol.

All that added snake oil is expensive.

jpaul · 22 Nov 2019 at 23:03

Diagro said:
Absolutely no point in spending £6-£12 per tank on Vpower.

have a look through earlier thread ... and the objective studies on keropur additives

jpaul said:
some interesting comments on additives here ... whether to use v-power or add some Red Line SI-1 from time to time, although, can you effectively mix an additive ?
https://products.basf.com/en/Keropur.html

Minstadave · 22 Nov 2019 at 23:09

Keropurs first claims:

Enable a variety of marketing claims
Support marketing campaigns
Make fuel different from any other fuel

Exciting stuff!

Diagro · 23 Nov 2019 at 05:26

Simon said:
But very different additives that give the cleaning. There’s more than just octane and power. Most UK fuel will have 5% ethanol.

Heh, cleaning.
If I wanted to clean my cylinder I'd just chuck a bottle of redex in. Which is £1 a tank full.
Still cheaper

Heisenberg · 23 Nov 2019 at 07:52

Diagro said:
Heh, cleaning.
If I wanted to clean my cylinder I'd just chuck a bottle of redex in. Which is £1 a tank full.
Still cheaper

Which can invalidate your warranty for engine components. Certainly the case with VAG.

jpaul · 23 Nov 2019 at 08:16

Minstadave said:
Exciting stuff!

hadn't realised you can actually buy it on amazon .. the links suggested it was akin to vpower, and ok - it seems similar cost per tank.
https://www.amazon.de/KEROPUR-Benzinadditiv-Benzinzusatz-Kraftstoffadditiv-Germany/dp/B071HXZQY8
so that's the xmas present sorted.
... well unless they refuse my warranty claim

Diagro · 23 Nov 2019 at 08:34

Heisenberg said:
Which can invalidate your warranty for engine components. Certainly the case with VAG.

LOL. NEVER heard something so ridiculous.
Voided warranty for using redex. Which is virtually untraceable when mixed 100:1

Simon · 23 Nov 2019 at 09:12

Diagro said:
Heh, cleaning.
If I wanted to clean my cylinder I'd just chuck a bottle of redex in. Which is £1 a tank full.
Still cheaper

I was commenting on your point that the fuels are the same. Up to you what you buy

Dangerous Dave · 23 Nov 2019 at 10:08

Diagro said:
LOL. NEVER heard something so ridiculous.
Voided warranty for using redex. Which is virtually untraceable when mixed 100:1

My car has a warning on the fuel cover to not use any additives.

A question for you, local Shell matches the Tesco unleaded price so VPower is only 3p a litre more than Momentum 99 would you pay that for the better cleaning ability ? Also if Tesco sold Tesco Value oil with the right ratings would you use that in your engine or pay more for Mobil or Castrol oil ?

robj20 · 23 Nov 2019 at 10:21

Dangerous Dave said:
My car has a warning on the fuel cover to not use any additives.

A question for you, local Shell matches the Tesco unleaded price so VPower is only 3p a litre more than Momentum 99 would you pay that for the better cleaning ability ? Also if Tesco sold Tesco Value oil with the right ratings would you use that in your engine or pay more for Mobil or Castrol oil ?

And yet dealers use additives themselves. Manufactures even sell them.

Mazda Zoom Power Cleaner.
BMW fuel additive.
https://www.group1auto.co.uk/bmw/bmw-fuel-additive

That's just two off the top of my head.

Minstadave · 23 Nov 2019 at 10:22

Dangerous Dave said:
My car has a warning on the fuel cover to not use any additives.

A question for you, local Shell matches the Tesco unleaded price so VPower is only 3p a litre more than Momentum 99 would you pay that for the better cleaning ability ? Also if Tesco sold Tesco Value oil with the right ratings would you use that in your engine or pay more for Mobil or Castrol oil ?

How do you know Vpower cleans better? There's never any decent proof I've seen, just marketing fluff.

Dis86 · 23 Nov 2019 at 10:47

Minstadave said:
How do you know Vpower cleans better? There's never any decent proof I've seen, just marketing fluff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uIsbRaArvk

Skip to like 10 mins. Not the most scientific of tests!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjknhwcQXU

Also not massively scientific.

jpaul · 23 Nov 2019 at 11:28

Dangerous Dave said:
local Shell matches the Tesco unleaded price so VPower is only 3p a litre more than Momentum 99

wow thats a small difference Cambridge momentum 129.9 , 95 121.9 and V-power ...it's going to be 140
.... I don't drive past it any more - you're sure you don't pay over the odds for Momentum ?

Minstadave said:
How do you know Vpower cleans better?

from the seat of your pants and the idling behaviour ... well it's doing something versus M99 ... depends on sound proofing to hear the engine