Police dealing with incident on London Bridge amid reports of shots fired
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Discount on suicide vests?
seems a tourist was trying to bring back a wartime shell as a souvenir
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Ugh, who does that...
What's the plan though? Keep him pinned down untill the end of time? How are you going to disarm a makeshift bomb and take it off him when it's attached to someone kicking and screaming?
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Suicide vests. Most pointless BOGOF deal ever.
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Nope. UK AFOs shoot until the target is no longer posing a threat, the threat being re-assessed after each shot. Anyone carrying out a Tel Aviv drill on the streets of London isn’t a copper.
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The Officers done very well, the second it was evident there was a suicide vest (fake of not, you can't tell that at the time) then the only option to prevent it is headshots, it's a recognised tactic. They have a duty of care to protect life, and if they have cause to believe someone is about to commit an act that may kill or cause serious injury they are justified to react.
What if it's a dead man trigger?
He had been disarmed and pinned down and hadn't triggered a bomb. If the police thought he was a threat they would have shot him on the ground there and then, letting him get up and unrestrained as someone mentioned above allowed him to potentially continue his attack/or detonate the bomb!
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What if as the terrorist got up his vest became visible?
Most officers ignore what civilians shout out during arrests as civilians get easily confused.
End of the day the police officer under the health and safety act has the right to return home in the same condition he arrived at his work place. If he deemed that the terrorist was a threat to his wellbeing at that time then he should take the shot.
But then again aren't we all just arm chair generals questioning the decision made by a trained officer with 2020 hindsight
Sorry are you seriously suggesting they should have shot him whilst a civilian was still wrestling with him on the floor?
Have you watched the unedited clips out of interest?
The suggestions you're making would indicate you haven't.
Everyone is missing the point - why the hell are they allowing a terrorist to become unrestrained? If he actually had a bomb he could have blown the police and the public that were still nearby up. Not exactly HSE friendly if you're going to try that angle.
Yes, I have seen the clip of the civilian being dragged off, the terrorist was pinned down with him on top, the police could easily have shot him in the head at point blank range if they considered a threat to life. Messy, but letting the guy get up as an alternative?
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He was being pinned down by the public. The cops dragged them away - I think anyway - in the belief that he had a viable device on him and public pinning him to the ground are sitting ducks.
The cops dragged them off to get them to safety as much as posdible and deal with the threat.
The cops dragged them off to get them to safety as much as posdible and deal with the threat.
Not to completely torpedoe you, but in previous attacks police officers when they arrive have been purposely targeted and easy civilians ignored.
Could you imagine the outcry if the police used the civilians to hold down a terrorist if he blew himself up when the cops got close to arrest?
End of the day the cops want a civilian free zone best to have civilians out of the way incase there is another weapon or explosive vest. Bullets pass through bodies quite easily.
If he blew up when the cop got near it would be like Hillsborough in the level of outcry