9900k Vs 9900ks

faceman123 · 4 Dec 2019 at 13:37

My friends 9900k died, he's in the process of buying a new one, are the new batches of 9900k going to be as good overclockin wise? i ask as the 9900ks was announced

snips86x · 4 Dec 2019 at 13:39

Wouldn't it be cheaper to get a 3600/3700x and new board?

Sargatanas2511 · 4 Dec 2019 at 14:12

faceman123 said:
My friends 9900k died, he's in the process of buying a new one the new replacements be as good overclockin wise since the 9900ks was announced

How did it die? I have literally never had a single cpu die on me for any reason in my ~20 years of building PCs.

faceman123 · 4 Dec 2019 at 14:18

Sargatanas2511 said:
How did it die? I have literally never had a single cpu die on me for any reason in my ~20 years of building PCs.

not sure - think his psu gave in and fried the chip etc. That's why no RMA

Sargatanas2511 · 4 Dec 2019 at 14:20

faceman123 said:
not sure - think his psu gave in and fried the chip etc. That's why no RMA

If that's the case go for a 3700X and spend more money on a better power supply.

snips86x · 4 Dec 2019 at 14:23

faceman123 said:
not sure - think his psu gave in and fried the chip etc. That's why no RMA

There is still a small chance the Motherboard didn't survive

faceman123 · 4 Dec 2019 at 14:25

Sargatanas2511 said:
If that's the case go for a 3700X and spend more money on a better power supply.

Good shout might talk him, is that the 8 core how far behind is the IPC

LePhuronn · 4 Dec 2019 at 14:39

faceman123 said:
how far behind is the IPC

It's not.

Sargatanas2511 · 4 Dec 2019 at 14:46

faceman123 said:
Good shout might talk him, is that the 8 core how far behind is the IPC

The IPC I think is the same or marginally better. The cpu runs slower though so the 9900k is a little bit faster in games. At 1440p or 4k it's basically negligible though.

faceman123 · 4 Dec 2019 at 15:16

Sargatanas2511 said:
The IPC I think is the same or marginally better. The cpu runs slower though so the 9900k is a little bit faster in games. At 1440p or 4k it's basically negligible though.

Screw the 9900k i'll try convince him to change platform, easy upgrade to 16 cores when it's affordable

Panos · 4 Dec 2019 at 15:24

faceman123 said:
Screw the 9900k i'll try convince him to change platform, easy upgrade to 16 cores when it's affordable

And 4000 series next year.....

faceman123 said:
not sure - think his psu gave in and fried the chip etc. That's why no RMA

CPUs don't get "fried". If PSU died more likely the mobo died also, but not the CPU.
Why you do not use his CPU to your system?

snips86x · 4 Dec 2019 at 15:27

Panos said:
And 4000 series next year.....

CPUs don't get "fried". If PSU died more likely the mobo died also, but not the CPU.
Why you do not use his CPU to your system?

Just tell him it's probably dead and buy it for £20

faceman123 · 4 Dec 2019 at 15:28

Panos said:
And 4000 series next year.....

CPUs don't get "fried". If PSU died more likely the mobo died also, but not the CPU.
Why you do not use his CPU to your system?

snips86x said:
Just tell him it's probably dead and buy it for £20

haha! i did test it on mines - dead as can be, as it was overclocked no RMA as it voids terms. Motherboard works??? - tested my cpu in it ( with my psu), also tempted to sell my 9900k now... will the 4000 series have more than 16 coreS?

snips86x · 4 Dec 2019 at 15:30

faceman123 said:
haha! i did test it on mines - dead as can be, as it was overclocked no RMA as it voids terms. Motherboard works??? - tested my cpu in it ( with my psu), also tempted to sell my 9900k now... will the 4000 series have more than 16 coreS?

IIRC, yes but it's not needed. If SM4 comes with it though, it'll be worth it

faceman123 · 4 Dec 2019 at 15:36

snips86x said:
IIRC, yes but it's not needed. If SM4 comes with it though, it'll be worth it

im to lazy to google what is sm4? i shouldnt spend so much time on this forum -__- just end up spending money haha, so i guess AMD will have two new customers this week...

snips86x · 4 Dec 2019 at 15:38

faceman123 said:
im to lazy to google what is sm4? i shouldnt spend so much time on this forum -__- just end up spending money haha, so i guess AMD will have two new customers this week...

In a nut shell, allows 4 threads per core

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-zen-3-sm4-four-threads-per-core/

LePhuronn · 4 Dec 2019 at 16:14

faceman123 said:
im to lazy to google what is sm4?

Hyperthreading is Intel's implementation of SMT, so basically think of SMT4 as AMD's Hyperthreading with 4 threads per core, not 2.

But it's very unlikely to be coming with Zen 3 now, so Ryzen 4000 will still be 2 threads per core. Probably stay at 16 cores max as well, but Zen 3 is looking to have a big IPC boost and possibly a tiny clock bump as well. So it'll be even faster than Zen 2.

koooowweeee · 4 Dec 2019 at 18:21

faceman123 said:
haha! i did test it on mines - dead as can be, as it was overclocked no RMA as it voids terms. Motherboard works??? - tested my cpu in it ( with my psu), also tempted to sell my 9900k now... will the 4000 series have more than 16 coreS?

How would they know it's been overclocked? If no visible signs of damage you can RMA it

Panos · 4 Dec 2019 at 18:52

snips86x said:
IIRC, yes but it's not needed. If SM4 comes with it though, it'll be worth it

Zen 3 won't have SM4, however the whole architecture is improved. No CCX, more L3, higher clocks, new improves I/O at 7nm, more transistors and chiplets made on 7nm EUV not 7nm.

Sayso · 4 Dec 2019 at 19:52

Tell him to RMA the CPU straight to Intel, its worth a go. No way to tell it has been overclocked, i RMA'd directly to AMD in the past it cost me the postage to Netherlands.