NHS gives Amazon free use of health data under Alexa advice deal . . .

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It's not patient data, it's basically information on NHS.uk, they'll probably want to make you able to ask Alexa about information you can find on the NHS website.

Amazon employs 650,000+ people, their customer service is great and so is their next day delivery service. If they aren't paying enough tax then that issue is with the governments creating the tax laws that allow them to do that legally
 
@Roar87 don't come in with sensible comments, OP wants misplaced outrage from this thread...

Grrrr, those evil Tories, they were behind this thing... which must be bad because it involves an American company and the NHS and everyone knows that's bad...

Obvs this means the NHS is for sale as we all knew all along and all hospitals will be knocked down to pay for Trump Hotels.
 
I assume Stockhausen is a paid Labour activist trying to scare people from voting for the Tories and it's the final push before Thursday
 
stockhausen said:
One of those rare instances where Bonker Boris is telling the truth, the Government aren't selling off the NHS, they are giving it away :rolleyes:

Oh, yeah, and Amazon can "sell on" to third parties the data that it harvests.


Amazon incidentally paid a massive $3.4bn in tax on its global income so far this decade, having gained measly revenues of only $960.5bn. Capitalism - doncha lurve it.
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You do know that companies only pay taxes of the sort they are talking about on profits not revenues?

Even you own link alludes to this

Amazon paid just $3.4bn (£2.6bn) in tax on its global income so far this decade, despite gaining revenues of $960.5bn and profits of $26.8bn.
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Now 3.4bn taxes on 26.8bn profit (just over 12.6%) isn't that great and I do have concerns about companies like Amazon not competing on a 'level playing field' but lets not get silly now

Its very misleading to quote taxes on profits in relation to revenue when margins are so low

as Amazon has pointed out in a press release re such stories

“Amazon pays all the taxes we are required to pay in the U.S. and every country where we operate, including paying $2.6 billion in corporate tax and reporting $3.4 billion in tax expense over the last three years.”
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The tax issue is a global problem where companies can proxy their business by setting up companies in countries such as Ireland which has different tax laws to ours.
 
Why aren't the NHS charging a fee for the information they're providing? they think it will alleviate stress on the NHS? it's more likely to be the opposite with people worrying themselves silly over nothing.

Random idiot: "Alexa why do I have stomach ache?"
Alexa: "bla bla bla cancer"
(dials 999)
Random idiot: "I need an ambulance I think I have cancer"
 
NHS England only, no patient info. Way to go dramatic OP.

Also it's only based on consent, are we to demand people don't do with their information what they want? Surely that's removing a freedom. As long as they are properly informed..
 
Hopefully this is so they can replace GP receptionists with a system which can fairly decide on the severity of your condition when trying to make an appointment instead of them judging you or asking to repeat so loud so that the whole waiting room can hear. I don't really want to know what everyone else in the room is having issues with while I wait.
 
I think stockhausen will be disappointed if he ever uses it, unless Alexa rabbits out that every illness was invented by the Tories, bankers infected you and the only cure is nurse Abbott.
 
For some reason our government loves to give things away for free. Then buy it back later on when its used as part of some product they need. Its dumb.
 
I'm not convinced the NHS has an electronic copy of patient data to sell. There's a lot of handwritten notes carried around and a total blank whenever I've moved to a new GP surgery.
 
JonJ678 said:
I'm not convinced the NHS has an electronic copy of patient data to sell. There's a lot of handwritten notes carried around and a total blank whenever I've moved to a new GP surgery.
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I don't think they do, our sons files had to be scanned in before we moved hospitals so they could send them across.

Bit of a misleading thread title isn't it.
 
The thing is this sort of BS does seem to impact members of the general pubic who don't look beyond headlines - it's just turning into project fear mk2 at the moment with Labour focusing very hard on any NHS related angle they can find even if the headlines generated become a load of hyperbole and get lapped up/forwarded on by utter numpties on Facebook - for example this lot:

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They've not even bothered to read the story (or they have and are being deliberately disingenuous) - it's got nothing to do with GDPR, identification risks or anything to do with patient data at all. The NHS is simply allowing Amazon to make use of the public info on their website that is freely available to read regardless.


OMG the horrors... evil Tories, this is all part of Boris' play to let Trump knock down hospitals to build hotels, how dare they let Alexia read things like general information about the common cold from the NHS web site or advise people, based on that info, that it doesn't require a trip to the GP. The horrors....
 
Fake news.
No better than click bait in the daily fail

Fake news is awful. I've seen so many people on my limited FB friend list posting BS news articles. With the 5 second attention span of most its no wonder misinformation is rife.
 
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