3950x cooler options

apostolis_kt said:
The main concern I have is leaks. Dont want pc to get destroyed because of water hence why I don't go for a custom water cooler. If pump dies ill go get a different one and most likely will also never touch the aios again.. the cooler you posted woyld be nice not sure how much it would handle 3950x with oc
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CLC and AIO leaks are rare, but pumps start failing
after a couple of years.

TRUE Spirit 140 Power is rated 360w TDP, the highest rating of any air cooler I know of. It uses 6x 8mm heatpipes while most others use 6mm heatpipes. 8mm heatpipes are rated about 30% higher cooling ability than 6mm heatpipes because of increased surface area and volume.

Ignore talk about availability, mount, etc. He obviously doesn't know who UK dealer is or much about product availabity. If you have any questions contact Thermalright.com and they will answer you no problem.

UK marketing is website you know about. Obviously Amazon has almost everything known to man but not always good sources to buy from.

Below link is 96 page thread with over 950 posts about TRUE Spirit 140 Power users.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-air-cooling/1477785-thermalright-true-spirit-140-power-96.html

There are no posts of mount issues or poor customer support, but there are a few about mounting fan clips being kind of a hassle to get fan mounted posted by first time Thermalright users. Easiest way is to practice mounting fan a couple of times before installing cooler. Clip one side and hold fan toward other side so clip stays in place, then clip 2nd side. Newer Thermarlight model coolers have easier to use fan clips. ;)


Relentless,
If you want to know who Thermalright UK dealer is message me or aposolis_kt.


apostolis_kt said:
The case is the cooler master c700p, I think there is plenty of space for a beastly cooler, but yes the ram part is the concern. Also the x570 master has the only rgb on the vrm part so that would be blocked I believe if I put the second fan on the other side.
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C700P has 198mm CPU clearance, more than enough for tallest coolers.
 
Relentless81 said:
Thanks but I know who it is, they ship to the UK but arent based in the UK which means any issues and you have to return over sea's
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That may be true, but your first post here makes it sound like they are not the reputable company they are with websites in most EU countries. I've used / tested most every cooler and fan Thermalright has made and have never had a problem. Obviously I deal direct with Thermalright so my support might be different than typical customer, but I post on many forums with long threads by Thermalright owners and problems are extremely rare. I have TY-140 fans in old Define R1 case (modified case for 140mm fans) that have been running for over 10 years now. Granted, that is longer than I expected them to last, but they are still running like new. Thermalright, like other top tier cooler brands has very, very few problems.
 
doyll said:
That may be true, but your first post here makes it sound like they are not the reputable company they are with websites in most EU countries. I've used / tested most every cooler and fan Thermalright has made and have never had a problem. Obviously I deal direct with Thermalright so my support might be different than typical customer, but I post on many forums with long threads by Thermalright owners and problems are extremely rare. I have TY-140 fans in old Define R1 case (modified case for 140mm fans) that have been running for over 10 years now. Granted, that is longer than I expected them to last, but they are still running like new. Thermalright, like other top tier cooler brands has very, very few problems.
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I didn't say they weren't reputable, I said they didn't reply to my query. I also stated a well known etailer supplies the 140 Power but is not informative on the fitting kits so in my eyes its easier to go for another brand that is more informative and has better availability.

I appreciate you're a massive fan of Thermalright products that comes across quite strongly and I am sure you're right and the products are very good. However for someone like me that would maybe like to try their products such as the 140 Power they dont make it easy.
 
Relentless81 said:
I didn't say they weren't reputable, I said they didn't reply to my query. I also stated a well known etailer supplies the 140 Power but is not informative on the fitting kits so in my eyes its easier to go for another brand that is more informative and has better availability.

I appreciate you're a massive fan of Thermalright products that comes across quite strongly and I am sure you're right and the products are very good. However for someone like me that would maybe like to try their products such as the 140 Power they dont make it easy.
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I do understand the problem. It's just that your post makes it sound like we shouldn't buy for them .. and that is why I posted back at you. Yes, I'm pro-Thermalright as I've used their coolers (and used/tested other major brands) for as long as heatpipe CPU coolers have been sold. Like many I am sad that Thermalright lost it's western world market share resulting in it being harder to find and get their products. The founder of Thermalright sold out several years ago and new owner seems to be pushing eastern market with good results. They have regional distrutors in Germany, China and Tiawan as well as an American site, but sadly not many retailers in individual western countries.

[H]ard|OCP tested Thermalright Silver Arrow TR4 against the Cooler Master Wraith Ripper using both the Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX and 2950X processors as well as ARO-M14 (Macho for AM4) along with some other air and Enermax Liqtech II TR4 (great performance new but lots of failures after just a few months), but site changes ownership and I can't find the reviews anymore. Silver Arrow AM4 was as good as Enermax Liqutech There results showed Silver Arrow TR4 (basically Silver Arrow IB-E for AM4 but with 68x53mm vs normal 50x53mm base).
 
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I remember thermalright from the core 2 duo days when I bought me a scythe ninja 2 as the big beast from thermalright wouldnt fit the case. The ninja fit with one mm to spare.

In the end I ordered the arctic and will have in mind for air cooling once it dies.

I built a 3700x system today and boy that wraith cooler was so easy to put in. The ninja 2 was a pain in the back side everytime I was trying to do stuff on my case. Probably why I went for the cosmos to have room to work in hehe.

Thank you all for the feedback looking forward to build my system and jump from p775 c2q 9550 at 4ghz to the 3950x, got my moneys worth out of the c2q
 
Relentless81 said:
Did you get a response from them in the end?
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Nope, my post has 3 views only. I coudn't wait so took the leap of faith and bought the cooler. It was easier to install than i thought it would be, possibly because all the fans are preinstalled and you have to worry for only one 4 pin cable, and most importantly i have loads of space on the top on the c700p. If it was a midi tower it would really difficult to fit.

But the whole system is loud. Not sure yet but i think i have a few different loud noises from my case but i built it all evening yesterday finished 2am and didnt have time to check bios or anything if i need to change any settings.

Even the case fans are stupid loud on the high setting. Plus 2 vegas in xfire doesnt help although those were off in windows as they weren't hot.
 
apostolis_kt said:
Nope, my post has 3 views only. I coudn't wait so took the leap of faith and bought the cooler. It was easier to install than i thought it would be, possibly because all the fans are preinstalled and you have to worry for only one 4 pin cable, and most importantly i have loads of space on the top on the c700p. If it was a midi tower it would really difficult to fit.

But the whole system is loud. Not sure yet but i think i have a few different loud noises from my case but i built it all evening yesterday finished 2am and didnt have time to check bios or anything if i need to change any settings.

Even the case fans are stupid loud on the high setting. Plus 2 vegas in xfire doesnt help although those were off in windows as they weren't hot.
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Yeah they didnt reply to me on Instagram either. Puts me off, send Noctua an email and you will receive a reply with a day or so in my experience.

Not sure about your setup but on mine I had to update the BIOS otherwise the fans ran at 100% and even after that I had to set custom curves for the case fans
 
Relentless81 said:
Yeah they didnt reply to me on Instagram either. Puts me off, send Noctua an email and you will receive a reply with a day or so in my experience.

Not sure about your setup but on mine I had to update the BIOS otherwise the fans ran at 100% and even after that I had to set custom curves for the case fans
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My post was at ocUK to be fair and i take it the people here are really busy or posted it at the wrong section - was the presales area as makes sense in my head. I didn't try the actual arctic cooling website because i needed to setup my pc asap.

I had all the parts ready even the 3950x sitting on my desk for a week and just couldn't wait any more.
 
Just to share my experience with the AIO, it was dead easy to install. Some videos praise the intel backplate and mechanisms and complain that for amd Arctic cooling kept the am4 backplate and let you screw 4 screws over it.

I found that easier though, possibly because the mobo was out on top of the box so i could screw it and the backplate didn't move. I still needed my gf to hold it though while i was putting the mobo in first. Also do the cpu first and then install the radiator on your case, as the other way would be more difficult i guess to hold the backplate etc.

Make sure you have the space though its thick
 
apostolis_kt said:
Hello,

I have all my parts ready to go on my new build finally. Only part missing is the cooler.

I never used an AIO and i am a bit worried to use one due to noise, potential leaks, or degradation after a few years.

I have my current pc since 2008 with a Scythe Ninja 2 and even the fan is working fine, although i added one half way through to make a push pull.

I need as much silence as possible but obviously to get out as much as possible from the processor.

I was leaning towards the D15 for air cooler but i have 2x16 trident z neos and i think the cooler will cover them which is a bit of a shame. Also I cannot find anywhere how well the 3950x goes with clocks and this cooler.

On the AIO end i am clueless.
Is it still the norm to avoid asetek made pumps? I saw the arctic freezer II 280 which i believe would fit in my c700p which supposedly has a good pump but is there anything else recommended?

Any ideas on the matter feel free to recommend
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ive had 2 aio coolers and no issue s wot so ever mate enjoy your build.
 
scubes said:
ive had 2 aio coolers and no issue s wot so ever mate enjoy your build.
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This weekend i build a 3700x for a friend who had a 8120 with a 120mm water cooler. The guy changed his pc because it was too loud and was overheating and crashing even on simple things. If he had changed just an air cooler possibly wouldn't need a new pc as he just plays games and had a 580. I think his pump was dead. But i guess you will get an indication of when things are dead.

So far so good is going great just trying to figure out some cables etc that i have excess :P and plug back the case in, i already started benches because couldn't wait :P
 
You may find that the D15 may be adequate for a 3950x depending on it you overclock or just leave it to do its own thing at stock which is now quiet good. I tend to prefer air coolers for their longevity over AIO. What software are you going to use it for? Even if you use software that can use say 8 threads you should find that the 3950x performs better than lesser CPUs due to the extra cache and having two chipsets. When I upgrade my 3600 I want the 4th gen 16 core even though it’s going to be used primarily for gaming, but should last yrs into the future.
 
wazza300 said:
D15 is a good cooler,theres one with the cut out on the heatsink to clear ram? But you use a 120 mm fan

The bigger the aircooler the better imo,plus you get a little vrm cooling aswell from the fans unlike an aio
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Yes the grim cooling from an air cooler can be useful if you have a lesser mobo.
 
Alan1969 said:
You may find that the D15 may be adequate for a 3950x depending on it you overclock or just leave it to do its own thing at stock which is now quiet good. I tend to prefer air coolers for their longevity over AIO. What software are you going to use it for? Even if you use software that can use say 8 threads you should find that the 3950x performs better than lesser CPUs due to the extra cache and having two chipsets. When I upgrade my 3600 I want the 4th gen 16 core even though it’s going to be used primarily for gaming, but should last yrs into the future.
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I will be mostly gaming, and programming in visual studio, possibly some unity and maybe 3ds Max if i ever find the time to go back to animation.

Managed to get a 4.325ghz all core at 1.4v CB20 10132 if i recall score, and temps were acceptable. Not sure i like the 1.4v so i should tweak a bit more and wont keep it that way, standard settings are fine for me coming from a c2q 9550 was a huge step anyway.
 
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