Will i5-9600K be bottleneck for gaming with RTX 2070 Super?

Kemik · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:45

Hi,

I'm speccing my new build at the moment and have noticed a big difference between the builds being recommended on the forums vs the OcUK full builds on their website.

For example, OcUK tend to go with i5-9600K (£175) with the RTX 2070 Super/ RX 5700 XT GPU, whereas the forum tends to suggest AMD CPUs which are closer to £300. Am I going to get a bottleneck with the i5?

System is primarily for gaming/VR when HL Alyx comes out. Looking to keep the whole build to around £1,200.

snips86x · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:47

Personally, I'd be looking at the 3600/3700x instead of the 9 series.
Any specific reason you're looking at the 9600k? It doesn't have hyperthreading by the way, if you're not aware already.

b00merang69 · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:49

I would not go with a 4 Cores today and yes it will bottleneck tat GPU dependant on the RES (less so at higher RES) and games engine.

snips86x · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:54

b00merang69 said:
I would not go with a 4 Cores today and yes it will bottleneck tat GPU dependant on the RES (less so at higher RES) and games engine.

It's 6c/6t but would still be a hindrance I think. Better to get something with more grunt.

Joxeon · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:54

b00merang69 said:
I would not go with a 4 Cores today and yes it will bottleneck tat GPU dependant on the RES (less so at higher RES) and games engine.

The i5 9600k is 6 cores 6 threads not 4 cores, but regardless a 3600/3700x system would be a better choice.

snips86x · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:55

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £94.99
1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £67.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £179.99

Total: £353.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Kemik · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:56

snips86x said:
Personally, I'd be looking at the 3600/3700x instead of the 9 series.
Any specific reason you're looking at the 9600k? It doesn't have hyperthreading by the way, if you're not aware already.

I genuinely was just looking at the OcUK builds and tweaking them. No strict attachment to Intel or AMD tbh.

Will take a look at the 3600. Any suggestions for a motherboard? I doubt I would be overclocking tbh. I can't be bothered with the effort of spending hours testing everything.

b00merang69 · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:57

snips86x said:
It's 6c/6t but would still be a hindrance I think. Better to get something with more grunt.

Ops my bad lol (thinking all non I7 were 4 cores from memory, forgot they did move up the i5 spec wise minis HT)

PC777 · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:58

I use that exact setup as I bought a 9600K when they first came out without doing research.

Though I would instead recommend a 3600 or better as a superior, much better value for money alternative.

However, I will say this, nothing's troubled the fast 6 core 9600K in term of gaming at 1440p, 95hz native res with gsync, nothing at all, was just playing Monster Hunter Iceborne with it with great performance and that's supposed to be a CPU hog that a lot of people have issues with.

I'm happy enough with its performance that it'll probably be 2 years before I upgrade to hopefully at least at 12 core 24 thread AMD.

sideways14a · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:58

I wouldnt touch the i5, 3600 is far superior.

snips86x · 13 Jan 2020 at 14:00

Kemik said:
I genuinely was just looking at the OcUK builds and tweaking them. No strict attachment to Intel or AMD tbh.

Will take a look at the 3600. Any suggestions for a motherboard? I doubt I would be overclocking tbh. I can't be bothered with the effort of spending hours testing everything.

snips86x said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £94.99

1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £67.99

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £179.99

Total: £353.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

b00merang69 said:
Ops my bad lol (thinking all non I7 were 4 cores from memory, forgot they did move up the i5 spec wise minis HT)

I keep thinking the same and forgetting they changed it. It was great 2-3 years ago, but a pointless chip now. Apparently the new i5s are coming with HT but god knows if they'll actually be any good.

Kemik · 13 Jan 2020 at 14:02

snips86x said:
My basket at Overclockers UK

Ah sweet, thanks. Thinking I'm best saving my money on the motherboard (£100 vs £200 gaming motherboard) and going for the one you suggested plus the 3700X instead of the 3600 seen as I apparently I only upgrade every 8 years...

snips86x · 13 Jan 2020 at 14:33

Kemik said:
Ah sweet, thanks. Thinking I'm best saving my money on the motherboard (£100 vs £200 gaming motherboard) and going for the one you suggested plus the 3700X instead of the 3600 seen as I apparently I only upgrade every 8 years...

That board will be fine mate, it's the best budget board going but doesn't compromise. You'll be fine.
Unless you're overclocking heavily, CPU and RAM, or need all the features of the £200 board (like 2/3 slots NVME) then don't bother.