Intel to launch Ryzen killer - the Core i9-10990XE (rumour)

[humbug]

Tom Petersen is pushing marketing and he is as toxic as Jen-Hsun Huang, maybe even more after being Huangs whipping boy for years. Shrout is just Petersen’s yes man.

Shrout is ambitious, can't blame him for that but back in his PcPer days he's the one actively courting backhanders from vendors for favourable reviews. He's a shady slime ball.
Its a skill Intel value.

 

[Panos]

Ok ok...

Tbh your post baffled me, considering how many posts you have done sarcastically criticizing Intel several years now

Shrout is ambitious, can't blame him for that but back in his PcPer days he's the one actively courting backhanders from vendors for favourable reviews. He's a shady slime ball.
Its a skill Intel value.

Muahahahahaha

 

[jigger]

Shrout is ambitious, can't blame him for that but back in his PcPer days he's the one actively courting backhanders from vendors for favourable reviews. He's a shady slime ball.

Intel and AMD should bring back Craig Brarrett and Hector Ruiz for maximum tech dinosaur toxicity The sadist in me would like to see that war.

 

[Panos]

Intels marketing has always been bad when it felt the need to, remember the Athlon days, but my mate Ryan has ratcheted it up a few notches from those heights. They really need to be careful as they can easily see themselves on the wrong end of an FTC lawsuit for all their bullcrap and lies - especially the rules on declarations in marketing slides!

Intel got off lightly with their $1B fine from the Athlon days, it should have been in the region of 10 times as much(imo), it took AMD this long, over 10 years, to recover.

If Intel can't sort their manufacturing soon I can see them getting nasty and playing dirty, just like NVidia in the R300 days.

Indeed $1bn compensation, was too low for the damage done to AMD through their mafia tactics.
Possibly explains why AMD is still focusing to seal clubbing Intel instead of going against Nvidia.

Saying that the new head of RTG is pretty ruthless also. In a single year she optimized the Vega iGP/APU making it 59% faster!!!

God knows what she will do with the Navi stuff. Hell I am wondering what she will be doing with the new Vega MI100.
(FYI she was one of the Zen designers)

 

[humbug]

Indeed $1bn compensation, was too low for the damage done to AMD through their mafia tactics.
Possibly explains why AMD is still focusing to seal clubbing Intel instead of going against Nvidia.

Saying that the new head of RTG is pretty ruthless also. In a single year she optimized the Vega iGP/APU making it 59% faster!!!

God knows what she will do with the Navi stuff. Hell I am wondering what she will be doing with the new Vega MI100.
(FYI she was one of the Zen designers)

Vega was Raja Koduri brain child, i don't rate him much, The 290X was AMD's last great card, then Koduri turned up and all he did was tweak that architecture with limited success.

Now he's gone, Mrs Sue takes over RTG. within 2 years there is a new architecture vastly better than Vega, RDNA, then she turns her attention to Koduri's brain child and BOOM 50% better performance out of the shaders.

I'm not expecting much from Intel's first in house GPU.

 

[Harlequin]

Vega was Raja Koduri brain child, i don't rate him much, The 290X was AMD's last great card, then Koduri turned up and all he did was tweak that architecture with limited success.

Now he's gone, Mrs Sue takes over RTG. within 2 years there is a new architecture vastly better than Vega, RDNA, then she turns her attention to Koduri's brain child and BOOM 60% better performance out of the shaders.

I'm not expecting much from Intel's first in house GPU.

yeah its not good apparantly

 

[jigger]

Shrout is ambitious, can't blame him for that but back in his PcPer days he's the one actively courting backhanders from vendors for favourable reviews. He's a shady slime ball.
Its a skill Intel value.

I just hope Ryan Shrout makes a fortune for taking Tom Petersen’s flak.

 

[jigger]

yeah its not good apparantly

It’s Intel, they don’t need it to be good, they just need to use it as a blunt instrument.

Iris isn’t any good, but Intel still dominate the graphics market.

 

[Steedie]

380W TDP

 

[Panos]

Vega was Raja Koduri brain child, i don't rate him much, The 290X was AMD's last great card, then Koduri turned up and all he did was tweak that architecture with limited success.

Now he's gone, Mrs Sue takes over RTG. within 2 years there is a new architecture vastly better than Vega, RDNA, then she turns her attention to Koduri's brain child and BOOM 50% better performance out of the shaders.

I'm not expecting much from Intel's first in house GPU.

No I am talking about Laura Smith. She is the senior director of RTG now and Chief Engineer. She was one of the Zen engineers on before Lisa moved her to RTG early 2019. Under her watch these drastic changes with the Vega APU occurred, while she got few engineers from the Zen team with her to work at RTG.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Vega was Raja Koduri brain child, i don't rate him much, The 290X was AMD's last great card, then Koduri turned up and all he did was tweak that architecture with limited success.

Now he's gone, Mrs Sue takes over RTG. within 2 years there is a new architecture vastly better than Vega, RDNA, then she turns her attention to Koduri's brain child and BOOM 50% better performance out of the shaders.

I'm not expecting much from Intel's first in house GPU.

Vega was already in development when Raja became chief engineer at RTG. The first one that was purely Raja was Navi.

 

[Panos]

Vega was already in development when Raja became chief engineer at RTG. The first one that was purely Raja was Navi.

Thats why was delayed almost 9 months
It was supposed to come out September 2018 not July 2019

 

[Woodsta888]

Was reading this thread on the train but jigger beat me to a 'stinks of shrouty' remark.

I was all up for FCAT at the time too.

 

[humbug]

No I am talking about Laura Smith. She is the senior director of RTG now and Chief Engineer. She was one of the Zen engineers on before Lisa moved her to RTG early 2019. Under her watch these drastic changes with the Vega APU occurred, while she got few engineers from the Zen team with her to work at RTG.

I did see her at CES, yeah seems she is doing a good job over there....

 

[Pritom Bhowmik]

Lets not forget the most important thing. If this chip is true, comes to the socket 2066, so on the HEDT platform where Intel has already 18 core chip....
Is not for the 1151 or 1200 (Z490) sockets. Also what happened to LGA 3467 and Xeon WS CPUs? Surely that CPU should have been there next.
Oh forgot, LGA 3467 and Xeon WS magically dissapeared after the presentation with the chiller........ So another gimmick.

And that shows the desperation of the mighty Intel!!!!

Especially after their 10nm laptop CPUs take heavy beating from the 7nm AMD 4000 laptop searies. Where Intel even paired one of these with a RTX2080ti mobile to show is faster on gaming than the AMD which was using RTX2060!!!!!! (with a 3750H!!!!!)

Wrong information

Yeah about that, doesn't all this constant lying and manipulation just eat away at Intel's credibility?

You can probably get away with shenanigans for a while but Intel have been at it for a lot longer than it takes people to see through it and its 'literally' Ryan Shrout levels of BS'ing, Intel have already become a Meme for their hilarious attempts at staying relevant and the more they keep Ryan Shrout'ing their marketing the more clownish and desperate people will see them.

The Big Scary Intel increasingly becomes a joke.

That's a wrong information by Adoerdtv (the guy who always picks on Intel and nVidia for decades, he doesn't do any benchmark on his own and makes hilarious assumption, mostly false reviews on Intel even when AMD was a joke back in the 2010s) on Intel using rtx 2080 ti, it was rtx 2060 and they were pairing it with their i7 9750h cpu to show how further Intel has gone against r7 3750h with SAME GPU. In another slide, they showed i9 9980hk with rtx 2080 to show the pinnacle of performance attained by Intel. This is where this AdoredTV guy started mixing and spreading false and misleading information. AMD don't have an r7 laptop that comes with above rtx 2060 cards. Also I don't think its wise to compare 1 year older Intel laptop cpu to unreleased ryzen 4000 series mobile cpu, many things can be manipulated but real world comparison will tell the truth. Lastly, Intel is having a tough time in desktop and server segment for some time now, which is honestly good for consumers as AMD has been force playing in almost every way, causing Intel to involve in next gen works that they had been reserving for years, laptop is one place Intel still tops and in gaming, Intel is also very much relevant. Intel's 10th gen Desktop finally coming up, and from specs, it seems they finally thinking about us rather than their shareholders.

 

[humbug]

Wrong information

That's a wrong information by Adoerdtv (the guy who always picks on Intel and nVidia for decades, he doesn't do any benchmark on his own and makes hilarious assumption, mostly false reviews on Intel even when AMD was a joke back in the 2010s) on Intel using rtx 2080 ti, it was rtx 2060 and they were pairing it with their i7 9750h cpu to show how further Intel has gone against r7 3750h with SAME GPU. In another slide, they showed i9 9980hk with rtx 2080 to show the pinnacle of performance attained by Intel. This is where this AdoredTV guy started mixing and spreading false and misleading information. AMD don't have an r7 laptop that comes with above rtx 2060 cards. Also I don't think its wise to compare 1 year older Intel laptop cpu to unreleased ryzen 4000 series mobile cpu, many things can be manipulated but real world comparison will tell the truth. Lastly, Intel is having a tough time in desktop and server segment for some time now, which is honestly good for consumers as AMD has been force playing in almost every way, causing Intel to involve in next gen works that they had been reserving for years, laptop is one place Intel still tops and in gaming, Intel is also very much relevant. Intel's 10th gen Desktop finally coming up, and from specs, it seems they finally thinking about us rather than their shareholders.

No i think i tend to agree with AdoredTV on this one, people tend not to pick up on the details, unless they are enthusiasts like us, people just look at the numbers, bigger = better, the fact that its a 2060 on the Ryzen system and a 2080 on the Intel system will go over most peoples heads and yes i do think its why they do #### like this.

That reasoning that 'only after challenged on the act' "just showing that Intel better and can run 2080" is weasel words marketing. If you want to prove that you would run them all with 2080's, the fact that they didn't say's a lot.

 

[Panos]

Wrong information

What's wrong information? Care to elaborate?

 

[CHokKA]

Wrong information

That's a wrong information by Adoerdtv (the guy who always picks on Intel and nVidia for decades, he doesn't do any benchmark on his own and makes hilarious assumption, mostly false reviews on Intel even when AMD was a joke back in the 2010s) on Intel using rtx 2080 ti, it was rtx 2060 and they were pairing it with their i7 9750h cpu to show how further Intel has gone against r7 3750h with SAME GPU. In another slide, they showed i9 9980hk with rtx 2080 to show the pinnacle of performance attained by Intel. This is where this AdoredTV guy started mixing and spreading false and misleading information. AMD don't have an r7 laptop that comes with above rtx 2060 cards. Also I don't think its wise to compare 1 year older Intel laptop cpu to unreleased ryzen 4000 series mobile cpu, many things can be manipulated but real world comparison will tell the truth. Lastly, Intel is having a tough time in desktop and server segment for some time now, which is honestly good for consumers as AMD has been force playing in almost every way, causing Intel to involve in next gen works that they had been reserving for years, laptop is one place Intel still tops and in gaming, Intel is also very much relevant. Intel's 10th gen Desktop finally coming up, and from specs, it seems they finally thinking about us rather than their shareholders.

Do you work for Intel or something? On Shrout's team? You've never posted here before and your first post is saying AdoredTV is wrong. He's quoted pictures with text on that's directly from Intel, showing how they're trying to hide things just to stay relevant. I'm not sure how he can be wrong when he's showing information that they're burying within their site. Their latest benchmarks are all rubbish and many have picked up on that. Sadly to the mainstream consumer who sees these and won't do research, it makes it seem like Intel are the better choice. And that's anti-competitive.

 

[Panos]

@CHokKA indeed. He posted "Wrong information" on my post without explaining whats "wrong information".
That this chip is on 2066 socket and not 1151 or 1200? That 3467 socket magically gone from any news? Or that Intel showed a RTX2080 laptop vs an AMD laptop RTX2060 based and said that Intel CPU is faster in gaming. (there are even videos and screenshots of the event).

I smell shill tbh.

 

[sideways14a]

More BS... who is it this time.