Could have stopped a shoplifting? WWGDD?

Quickly grab a bag of Malteasers from the tobacco counter display, open it and roll the contents across the floor by the exit. As he struggles for balance, reach for a Yorkie and smack him over thead with it before finishing him off with a couple of Double Deckers if necessary.
 
Recently was on the self checkouts at Sainsbury when I noticed the guy next to me scanned his stuff, pressed a few of the buttons on the screen, 'pretended' to pay then got out of the shop as quickly as he could. Looked at the screen and all his items were still there, unpaid. Told a worker and security guard that was at the door, they basically just said 'OK', cancelled the items on the screen and went back to what they were doing.

If they don't care they I certainly would not be putting myself in harms way by doing anything to stop them.
 
A2Z said:
Recently was on the self checkouts at Sainsbury when I noticed the guy next to me scanned his stuff, pressed a few of the buttons on the screen, 'pretended' to pay then got out of the shop as quickly as he could. Looked at the screen and all his items were still there, unpaid. Told a worker and security guard that was at the door, they basically just said 'OK', cancelled the items on the screen and went back to what they were doing.

If they don't care they I certainly would not be putting myself in harms way by doing anything to stop them.
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They're not going to risk getting stabbed for 9 quid an hour either!
Maybe we're the idiots for paying for our stuff...
 
I've done something in a similar situation in the past, 25 years ago or so, but not now as I would be charge with assault - leave it to the police to do nothing too.
 
R.P.L said:
It was a reference to the spacing, yes. Apologies, I'd never heard of that due to dyslexia before.
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I have great trouble reading blocks of text. A couple of lines is OK.
After that I have to reread it over and over again
But still I miss out words
Or groups of words
I type like this without even thinking it, because then I have to reread what I wrote
In case I messed up

But sorry if I was oversensitive over your remark
Was the 2nd time someone has said it
Guess I was starting to get paranoid lol
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Guy hadn't stolen anything
Security guard "forcibly moved him back into the store"
If I was the judge then the security guard would have been guilty of assault
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You'd be a judge that didn't understand the law. Depending on the facts (which aren't stated in the article), the security guard may be able to justify his actions as perfectly lawful.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
If he hasn't left the premises
Then surely technically he hasn't stolen anything
Would only be intent to steal perhaps.
Maybe he just had dementia or something
And then some have a go hero assaults him
That Would go down well
I don't think
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You don't need to necessarily leave the premises to have completed a theft. Also, stop assuming it'd be an assault, it's not that simple.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
You'd be a judge that didn't understand the law. Depending on the facts (which aren't stated in the article), the security guard may be able to justify his actions as perfectly lawful.
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As civvies anyone can use reasonable force to prevent a crime from happening and/or hold someone suspected of committing an offence until the Police arrive, right Burnsy?
 
The_Arbiter said:
Saw a guy the other day at self checkout, scan, bag, and contactless his card, then walk out.
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So I know a friend that did this ;)

Basically scans 3 bags worth shopping totalling £26 something. Looks around and thinks:

"All the staff are run off their feet, I bet I can just walk out of here without paying and no one would be none the wiser."

And that's what happened. No alarms or pouncing security guards, just casually walks out with all the other shoppers.
 
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Burnsy2023 said:
You don't need to necessarily leave the premises to have completed a theft. Also, stop assuming it'd be an assault, it's not that simple.
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Burnsy2023 said:
You don't need to necessarily leave the premises to have completed a theft. Also, stop assuming it'd be an assault, it's not that simple.
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Yeah it's never that simple once lawyers get involved
To most people you either did something or you didn't
To lawyers it's not whether their client did it
But whether they can get them off for doing it
 
mjt said:
How could he get out of the self scan?
Are there not barriers that require you to scan the receipt in the UK?
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No, it operates on trust and on tagging of some items that are most commonly stolen. For most items, there's no security apart from one employee who might or might not be watching at any given time. That employee is there to disable tags, check customers for age-restricted items and deal with cases in which the self-service system doesn't work properly. The exit to the self scan area will have a scanner that sounds a minor alarm if someone passes through it with a tagged item, but that's it. No barrier.

Oddly, the system works well enough. Some of the tagged items are a bit surprising. I bought some underpants in Tesco a little while ago and they were tagged as items at high risk of theft so I had to have the Tesco employee disable the tag for me. They were Tesco own brand underpants. £5 for a pack of 3, I think. Something like that.
 
Angilion said:
No, it operates on trust and on tagging of some items that are most commonly stolen. For most items, there's no security apart from one employee who might or might not be watching at any given time. That employee is there to disable tags, check customers for age-restricted items and deal with cases in which the self-service system doesn't work properly. The exit to the self scan area will have a scanner that sounds a minor alarm if someone passes through it with a tagged item, but that's it. No barrier.

Oddly, the system works well enough. Some of the tagged items are a bit surprising. I bought some underpants in Tesco a little while ago and they were tagged as items at high risk of theft so I had to have the Tesco employee disable the tag for me. They were Tesco own brand underpants. £5 for a pack of 3, I think. Something like that.
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Loose onions, innit.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
I have great trouble reading blocks of text. A couple of lines is OK.
After that I have to reread it over and over again
But still I miss out words
Or groups of words
I type like this without even thinking it, because then I have to reread what I wrote
In case I messed up

But sorry if I was oversensitive over your remark
Was the 2nd time someone has said it
Guess I was starting to get paranoid lol
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It's simply that your posts are written in poetic form rather than prose form.

The reason why doesn't really matter. It's very unusual so some people will comment on it. Probably less often as more people here know why you write that way.

Poetic writing
dyslexia workaround
now it makes sense
 
Angilion said:
It's simply that your posts are written in poetic form rather than prose form.

The reason why doesn't really matter. It's very unusual so some people will comment on it. Probably less often as more people here know why you write that way.

Poetic writing
dyslexia workaround
now it makes sense
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Never realised poetic or prose forms lol
It's just my form I guess :)
 
Angilion said:
It's simply that your posts are written in poetic form rather than prose form.

The reason why doesn't really matter. It's very unusual so some people will comment on it. Probably less often as more people here know why you write that way.

Poetic writing
dyslexia workaround
now it makes sense
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I quite like it. I have noticed someone on another forum posting in the same way, and never understood why they did, perhaps this explains it!
 
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