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Sham cover-up for a partisan sham impeachment. Seems fair. The cancel each other out.

A cover-up :D:D:D

They had 17 witnesses the first time, wouldn't allow Republicans to call theirs. And in the Senate Schiff, claimed they proved every facet of their case

Why would they need more witnesses?
 
The GOP have admitted that Trump did what he was accused of but that they didn't want to remove him. Their story has changed from "no quid pro quo" all the way though to "yeah ok he did everything he's been accused of but it's ok". I assume that's why they didn't want to hear from more witnesses - because they already had enough proof that Trump was guilty but in their mind it wasn't a crime.

No one was expecting him to be found guilty after the GOP said that they had already made up their mind before the trial even started.

It's a dangerous precedent that they've set. Trump is now free to use the President's office to assist his re-election campaign. Everyone keeps moaning (incorrectly) about Obama apparently spying on Trump's campaign. Under this new precedent, that's fine. He probably wishes he had done it now.
 
So when does the trial of Quid Pro Quo Joe and his son making money for doing nothing on the board of a Ukrainian energy company start? I mean the whole reason this impeachment charade started was because Trump dared to ask Ukraine to look into corruption, we have Quid Pro Quo Joe on video admitting to threatening to withhold money to Ukraine if they didn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma corruption because his son was as the centre of it, if Joe Biden's going to be the 2020 Democrat nominee then American's should be allowed to find out how bent he is considering the scrutiny and investigations Trump has been subjected to.
Biden was brought up at the trial on the 24th Jan. All the nonsense Plasmahal and you have been going on about they said was a discredited Russian-pushed conspiracy theory. To quote them.

“Every single witness who was asked about the allegations again said that Biden had nothing to do with it and it was false; they testified that he acted properly,” Ms. Garcia said, adding, “There is simply no evidence, nothing, nada in the record to support this baseless allegation.”"

Along with "Mr. Biden was acting in accordance with official American policy, as well as the policy of the European Union, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations in calling for his removal."

Also what is a high crime came up. To quote them "“It doesn’t have to be a crime. It’s just when you start using your office and you’re acting in a way that hurts people, you’ve committed a high crime.”

The only relation Biden has in this case is the crime Trump committed. As you are just going to ignore all evidence, facts and statements from people involved I am not going to waste time typing and will copy and past

“Back in November we found out there was an irregular team conducting back-channel negotiations with Ukraine bypassing the official US ambassadors. That turned out to be Lev and Rudy working directly for Trump but not as official government staff but as private citizens working for Trump to bypass the official government staff.

According to Lev’s statement backed up by his evidence he was taking orders directly from Trump and told Ukraine he was working for Trump. He said the motivation to get rid of the Ambassador Yovanovitch was to obtain dirt on Joe Biden. He also said the investigation wasn’t to get rid of corruption but to the aim was soliciting foreign aid against a political rival (Biden) all because Trump wanted an advantage in the 2020 race. This is backed up by what was the U.S. National Security Advisor saying he distances himself from what he viewed as the Trump administration's effort to pressure Ukraine into investigating the President's political rivals.”


In short
Zero evidence against Biden. 100% statements from people involved say he did nothing wrong. Was acting within Policy but you still want to believe that Russian debunked Conspiracy Theory based on nothing.

Trump on the other hand we have the GOP who now admitted that Trump did it. With the Republican who did the soliciting foreign aid against a political rival for Trump putting out a statement that it happen under Trumps orders. Backed up by further far right Republicans one of which was the Republican U.S. National Security Advisor who put out a statement collaborating that it happened. So already x10 more evidence then the fake Biden conspiracy theory you want to believe.

I know this is a waste of time. But shouldn't you question why you believe a discredited Russian Conspiracy theory based on zero evidence. Yet you will not even entertain the possibility that Trump did anything wrong despite the Republicans who where involved putting out statement that it happened and Trump was involved. Its like you have been brainwashed by the 1% Elite to only believe the fake stories they want you to believe while ignoring there men at the top Trump who has done nothing but make his fellow 1% Elite Friends lives better.

EDIT: Now we just need the vote 53-47 ish to get the outcome we all expected from the start.
 
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The GOP have admitted that Trump did what he was accused of but that they didn't want to remove him.

Yep, he wanted corruption linked to the 2016 election looked at, which is within his remit as president to do.

Their story has changed from "no quid pro quo" all the way though to "yeah ok he did everything he's been accused of but it's ok".

Even if there was a quid-pro-quo (biden style), its not an impeachable crime. It was good enough for biden.

It's a dangerous precedent that they've set.

The dems have, yes.

Trump is now free to use the President's office to assist his re-election campaign.

Same as all other presidents seeking a second term.

Everyone keeps moaning (incorrectly) about Obama apparently spying on Trump's campaign.

The DNC and Obama administration did and are under investigation for it.
 
Again you have just put a few words together in a sentence which is obviously your mistaken belief.
Yes, that is how english works, and no it's not MY mistaken belief it's the TRUTH!

You have still yet to back it up with any proof.
From here:https://www.investors.com/politics/...ele-dossier-trump-russia-carter-page-wiretap/

But now, with the application documents in hand, even the Washington Post admits that the dossier played "a prominent role" in the wiretap request. And we know that the FBI had corroborated none of the dossier claims before filing its application.

I can back up what i say.
 
Yep, he wanted corruption linked to the 2016 election looked at, which is within his remit as president to do.
Ah yes, Donald Trump the corruption crusader! Haha. He didn’t pay $25m to settle a lawsuit around his scam university did he? His charity wasn’t shut down because he was using funds illegally was it? He didn’t pay the Florida DA to make an investigation go away did he? But yeah, he cares about corruption all of a sudden.

If he wanted corruption investigating why was he using his personal attorney and his shady associates instead of going down official routes? Why did he oust an ambassador who was actively working to reduce corruption in Ukraine?

You’ll believe anything he says

Even if there was a quid-pro-quo (biden style), its not an impeachable crime. It was good enough for biden.
Biden didn't have a quid pro quo.

The dems have, yes.
What's that?

Same as all other presidents seeking a second term.
Now they can yes after the precedent that the GOP have now set.

The DNC and Obama administration did and are under investigation for it.
Fake news.
 
Because he isn't guilty of any crime or misdemeanour otherwise congress and the senate would have done it already?
urm... Trump has been a bit busy, first with the Russian hoax and then with this sham impeachment 'trial'. Now it's out the way he can get after Biden/Obama/Shiff/Pelosi/Kerry/etc..

And perhaps they arent that stupid?
LoL
 
Yes, that is how english works, and no it's not MY mistaken belief it's the TRUTH!

From here:https://www.investors.com/politics/...ele-dossier-trump-russia-carter-page-wiretap/



I can back up what i say.

No you havent and you can't. Nothing in that link backs up what you have stated to be the TRUTH!. Clearly we must all take your workd for it because you have put it in capitials? Trump does that when he's telling the biggest lies. Guess you learnt from the best?
 
Can someone help me with the narrative here.

Why would trump want to wait 2 years to investigate supposed corruption in the 2016 election, which he loves to continually remind people he won so bigly in a way none thought possible?

What was to gain?
 
Then neither did Trump.
Trump did, that's why he was impeached. If Biden did then he'd have been investigated by the GOP controlled Congress. There are videos after all...

DOJ investigations are fake news, OK!!!!
Ones into CTs are, yes.

You're just selectively replying to my post I see, ignoring the part about corruption again. You know that Trump wanting to investigate corruption is complete bull.
 
He wasn't impeached for that.... :)
Now that he was acquitted, legally he wasn't impeached at all. All that happened was 'only a grand jury presentment', he was acquitted so therefore non impeachment - similar to if someone was found innocent at court. That's a paraphrasing from Alan Dershowitz.
 
Now that he was acquitted, legally he wasn't impeached at all. All that happened was 'only a grand jury presentment', he was acquitted so therefore non impeachment - similar to if someone was found innocent at court. That's a paraphrasing from Alan Dershowitz.
What?! No matter what happens he was impeached, nothing will ever change that. If you’re found innocent in court it doesn’t mean that you were never arrested.
 
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