Ahh... so now my values are on trial, but once again those who supported Clinton are give a pass. Is that right?
It shows the contempt of the DEMS!Am i the only one who doesnt hate trump and found the ripping up of the speech hilarious
His entire speech was a substance less stunt.
Which parts?
Read into it, it was Hillary's war - she was the one who pushed for it. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/1/hillary-clinton-libya-war-push-armed-benghazi-rebe/She was SecState so although she would have had a big say at the table say she wasn't POTUS and she wasn't SecDef.
No, but he controlled his people well. It wasn't perfect but he was far from what you say. Here's a list of things that prove how bad he was..:Are you really crying for Gaddafi?
I'm sure he did have people killed, just like the west does so openly now with drones(and they've done it in the past just more covertly) but to say he was a madman is/was rubbish..He was a murdering madman who ruled Libya with an iron first for decades killing indiscriminately.
No It's not. FYI Saddam Hussain was a CIA asset: https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/2...rove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/ Nice story that shows what sort of thing the CIA gets up to..It's like feeling sorry for Saddam Husain ffs.
So, do you think their may be more behind it? FYI the middle east when Tony Blair was 'Middle East Peace Envoy' - I suspect he was doing the opposite. Tony Blair is one of the most duplicitous people around!The Arab Spring started in Tunisia and then spread though North Africa into the Middle East.
Maybe - If you was in power would you try what you could to stay in power? I'm not saying Gaddafi was a saint, far from it, but he's not as bad as you think.Gaddafi tried to put it down by murdering his own people.
Again, that's what you are meant to 'think'..The US and European nations stepped up to stop him and try and stop it turning into a blood bath and not be highjacked by Muslim extremists.
Not really.An almost impossible task.
You can say that again. Perhaps it went as planned, who knowsWas it perfectly handled, no.
You give TPTB too little credit.These situations rarely are.
So, he paid off everyone to get people off his back, people were fine with it for what 2 decades(can't remember), then all of a sudden he was bad again. Why was that?Lets not forget he effectively murdered 259 people on flight Pan Am 103 and 11 on the ground in Lockerbie.
I'm sure he knew that.He had it coming from the US.
You are quite myopic, but ancient history and delt with already..He also embraced the murderer of Yvonne Fletcher when he arrived back in Libya and never handed him over.
It's not me, it was Croniclard that has the issues. To say entire is lazy, even he MUST have liked some parts in a 1 hour 30+ minutes speech!Which part of entire are you struggling with?
It's not me, it was Croniclard that has the issues. To say entire is lazy, even he MUST have liked some parts in a 1 hour 30+ minutes speech!
Here we go, get ready to learn something - if you want to.
Read into it, it was Hillary's war - she was the one who pushed for it. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/1/hillary-clinton-libya-war-push-armed-benghazi-rebe/
No, but he controlled his people well. It wasn't perfect but he was far from what you say. Here's a list of things that prove how bad he was..:
In Libya a home is considered a natural human right
Education and medical treatment were all free
If any Libyan wanted to start a farm they were given a house, farm land and live stock and seeds all free of charge.
When a Libyan woman gave birth she was given 5000 (US dollars) for herself and the child.
Electricity was free in Libya meaning absolutely no electric bills!
During Gaddafi’s reign the price of petrol in Libya was as low as 0.14 (US dollars) per litre.
Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. This figure was brought up to 87% with 25% earning university degrees.
Libya had its own State bank, which provided loans to citizens at zero percent interest by law and they had no external debt.
There are more, look it up.. Looks like the things a madman tyrant does eh??
I'm sure he did have people killed, just like the west does so openly now with drones(and they've done it in the past just more covertly) but to say he was a madman is/was rubbish..
No It's not. FYI Saddam Hussain was a CIA asset: https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/2...rove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/ Nice story that shows what sort of thing the CIA gets up to..
So, do you think their may be more behind it? FYI the middle east when Tony Blair was 'Middle East Peace Envoy' - I suspect he was doing the opposite. Tony Blair is one of the most duplicitous people around!
Maybe - If you was in power would you try what you could to stay in power? I'm not saying Gaddafi was a saint, far from it, but he's not as bad as you think.
Again, that's what you are meant to 'think'..
Not really.
You can say that again. Perhaps it went as planned, who knows
You give TPTB too little credit.
So, he paid off everyone to get people off his back, people were fine with it for what 2 decades(can't remember), then all of a sudden he was bad again. Why was that?
I'm sure he knew that.
You are quite myopic, but ancient history and delt with already..
Obama threatened our country with negative consequences (no immediate trade deal) if we voted to leave the EU, seems abuse of power (not an impeachable crime but still) is fine though if you're a globalist.
Short memory?
"Barack Obama has warned that the UK would be at the “back of the queue” in any trade deal with the US if the country chose to leave the EU, as he made an emotional plea to Britons to vote for staying in."
"He added: “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...obama-brexit-uk-back-of-queue-for-trade-talks
Ask yourself why the DNC gave the contract for this app to a company, Shadow Inc, set up in September 2019, run up by 3 executives that worked on Hillary Clintons 2016 campaign - Who's main investor is George Soros?Oh please they are absolute nobodies. People would struggle to know a single name without going to Google.
If he is so loved why is he even being challenged? No one challenged Obama in Iowa in 2012.
Thank you!Wow you really are a piece of work.
As I've said, lots of times, I like some things about him but dislike a LOT of other things, but his still a MUCH better candidate that Hillary.No wonder you are a Trump fan
No, I know how the world works, and, mabe, in a decade or two you will come to see it.as you are able to excuse the behaviour of tyrants
No, I just said that there was things that he did that were benevolent' to his people.and paint the country they rule over with an iron first as idilic.
Same as you do where you live. Think about this, all the right' you have can be taken away at any time - Just like freedom of speech is being eroded, with your help in this thread for instance, now.The fact they have no freedom in other than the minor "freedoms" he grants
Didn't say that. Of course if you push too far it can happen anywhere, even here - just look at Julian Assange!and if they speak out will result in torture and death is irrelevant.
No, I'm not going to even try to defend MBS. Even the fact that you use MBS rather than his real given name shows that you, to some degree, are being controlled by fear - I am not!I'm sure you've got a line for how MBS is also great and chopping up journalists who speak out against him is fine.
Ok, disprove one thing I put in that post, one thing! You can't because it's the truth.The only think I learnt from that is you may be borderline or possibly full blown sociopath.
Thanks!You should possibly consider a run in right wing politics.
Trump loves the UK, he loves the Queen, he loves Scotland as his grandmother was Scottish, he likes Boris more than most other leaders. We're easily his favourite country outside of America; and that actually matters when it comes to Trump.
VERY poor analogy.. It's not even remotely the same. We are a massively net IMPORTER, that means we import more than we export fyi, so if the EU don't want to sell more to us than we sell to them it's their loss, same with the USA.Tell me when you walk into a shop or say a train station and need to purchase something or buy a ticket do you walk to the front of the queue and push in or do you join the back of the queue like the rest of us?
Thanks for that! (that was sarcasm)It's a figure of speech
REALLY??or hyperbole
What point? That's what I was asking..to make a point.
Really, I didn't know that..It's one of the nuances of English language that help with interpreting things you see and hear.
No thanks.Try it
I like speaking plainly rather than use weasel language.you might not come to such ridiculous conclusions and make inane points.
No, I'm not going to even try to defend MBS. Even the fact that you use MBS rather than his real given name shows that you, to some degree, are being controlled by fear - I am not!
Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud colloquially known as MbS, is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
Thank you!
As I've said, lots of times, I like some things about him but dislike a LOT of other things, but his still a MUCH better candidate that Hillary.
No, I know how the world works, and, mabe, in a decade or two you will come to see it.
No, I just said that there was things that he did that were benevolent' to his people.
Same as you do where you live. Think about this, all the right' you have can be taken away at any time - Just like freedom of speech is being eroded, with your help in this thread for instance, now.
Didn't say that. Of course if you push too far it can happen anywhere, even here - just look at Julian Assange!
No, I'm not going to even try to defend MBS. Even the fact that you use MBS rather than his real given name shows that you, to some degree, are being controlled by fear - I am not!
Ok, disprove one thing I put in that post, one thing! You can't because it's the truth.
Thanks!
Thanks for that! (that was sarcasm)
REALLY??
What point? That's what I was asking..
Really, I didn't know that..
No thanks.
I like speaking plainly rather that use weasel language.