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I like the thing about CT theorists that says they can never have worked on any sort of serious project in the corporate world, if they had they would know how ridiculous it sounds that a conspiracy of the scale they imagine is even possible when, in the real world, trying to get 3 people in a room to discuss something confidential and it not leak is largely impossible.
 
Don't know how true to life this really is. But US Law/Crime dramas tend to show witnesses being prepared and coached before giving evidence as a matter of routine. So I could certainly see a group of people getting together to make sure that their ducks are all lined up before firing the first shot might well be not only believable, but also considererd perfectly acceptable.

(Incidentally, It is my understanding that in the UK, it is specifically forbidden for lawyers to "Perpare" or "coach" witness before a giving evidence in a trial. If this is the case, it represents a massive difference in procedure)

But we're not talking about coaching witnesses here. We are talking about a grand conspiracy amongst multiple seperate departments and civil servants. And it had to have started early enough to leave an appropriate paper trail to back up their testimony.
Someone had to be orchestrating it, otherwise how would they know to pretend to be horrified and outraged by Trumps perfect behaviour.

Is Parnas working for them too?
 
Don't know how true to life this really is. But US Law/Crime dramas tend to show witnesses being prepared and coached before giving evidence as a matter of routine. So I could certainly see a group of people getting together to make sure that their ducks are all lined up before firing the first shot might well be not only believable, but also considererd perfectly acceptable.

(Incidentally, It is my understanding that in the UK, it is specifically forbidden for lawyers to "Perpare" or "coach" witness before a giving evidence in a trial. If this is the case, it represents a massive difference in procedure)

But we're not talking about coaching witnesses here. We are talking about a grand conspiracy amongst multiple seperate departments and civil servants. And it had to have started early enough to leave an appropriate paper trail to back up their testimony.
Someone had to be orchestrating it, otherwise how would they know to pretend to be horrified and outraged by Trumps perfect behaviour.

Is Parnas working for them too?
 
I like the thing about CT theorists that says they can never have worked on any sort of serious project in the corporate world, if they had they would know how ridiculous it sounds that a conspiracy of the scale they imagine is even possible when, in the real world, trying to get 3 people in a room to discuss something confidential and it not leak is largely impossible.

This. I think it reflects a sheltered life, lack of experience or young age.

As you grow up, you realise just how incompetent everyone is in all walks of life, so the chances of pulling off massive conspiracies involving massive amounts of different people are incredibly slim.

Often the simplest explanation is the truth.
 
This. I think it reflects a sheltered life, lack of experience or young age.

As you grow up, you realise just how incompetent everyone is in all walks of life, so the chances of pulling off massive conspiracies involving massive amounts of different people are incredibly slim.

Often the simplest explanation is the truth.

The fact that the actual conspiracy was laid bare by witnesses in this case eventually, despite obstruction by the highest power in the land, tells you all you need to know about the possibility of some greater conspiracy.
 
I like the thing about CT theorists that says they can never have worked on any sort of serious project in the corporate world
I've worked as a programmer for over 20 years, worked for, and with, many large and small companies - what is your point?

if they had they would know how ridiculous it sounds that a conspiracy of the scale they imagine is even possible
They kept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project secret didn't they? They had over 130,000 people working on that. Not a conspiracy, but 130,000 people working in secret, for years, to obtain an objective - yes, can't happen.


when, in the real world, trying to get 3 people in a room to discuss something confidential and it not leak is largely impossible.
If you say so.

//edit, change some text so the nit-pickers have less to get ansi about.
 
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This. I think it reflects a sheltered life, lack of experience or young age.
Not necessarily.



As you grow up, you realise just how incompetent everyone is in all walks of life
Depends of the field in which you work - obviously.. If you are a fast food workers, no offense to fast food workers, or politicians, they are less conscientious than programmers, or doctors for instance - they just have to be else they couldn't do their work!

so the chances of pulling off massive conspiracies involving massive amounts of different people are incredibly slim.
Don't you think these people are conscientious enough? These people, at the top of the US government structure, have had to be extremely competent people to get where they were - unless they got voted in of course.

Often the simplest explanation is the truth.
Occam's razor..
 
I guess the old adage that you cant reason someone out of something they didnt reason themselves into is true..
 
The fact that the actual conspiracy was laid bare by witnesses in this case eventually, despite obstruction by the highest power in the land, tells you all you need to know about the possibility of some greater conspiracy.

Exactly.
 
The fact that the actual conspiracy was laid bare by witnesses in this case eventually, despite obstruction by the highest power in the land, tells you all you need to know about the possibility of some greater conspiracy.
As we've seen today, and I said in the SC thread, this is still playing out - need to give more time.
 
Tactic seems to be to post lies, refuse to be told its lies, double down on lies, refuse to be told its lies, triple down on lies.

And then claim the whole of GD is conspiring on them and bullying them. :rolleyes:

There is a report post button for that if he genuinely thinks he has a point .
 
It isn't just her, there are lots of people involved, including congress-people and senators. I truely think Biden/Kerry/Hillary/Obama/Schiff/Bolton/Brennen/Pelosi/Romney. Even the whistleblower , who speeks fluent Russian/Ukrainian. This goes back to the tragic coup in Ukraine, in which 100 people(40 police) were killed by snipers to trigger the coup. And it's why you now see the likes of Biden, Kerry and Pelosi have children that 'work', by that I mean have paid directorships, in Ukrainian energy companies. THAT is why they are so nervous about Trump going after corruption in Ukraine - because all those names, and more, are guilty of corruption.

Trump took over from Obama, there are still lots of Obama's people still in places they can do damage to Trump. They have been after Trump since before he took office, because they though hillary would win and they didn't cover their tracks, so to stop Trump investigating they have been throwing everything they can at Trump, Russian meddling and now the impeachment failure, it all takes up valuable time that Trump could have been using to investigate THEM.

There is a lot more to it, but that will get you going.

And there it is. Full CT mode. You really are a full tin foil hat wearing fanboy. Just read back what you've written. It is utterly ridiculous even as an idea and would NEVER work and have people involved not talking about it or have investigative journalists all over it and so someone at the heart of it come clean. You know like they did with the Trump/Ukraine scandal that just had him impeached.

The fact that the actual conspiracy was laid bare by witnesses in this case eventually, despite obstruction by the highest power in the land, tells you all you need to know about the possibility of some greater conspiracy.

Exactly this. For hominid and his brethren's CT to be true people at the very highest levels would have to be in on it and have kept their roles hidden and mouths shut. The likes of Vindman, Taylor, Yovanovitch, Sondland, Fiona Hill, George Kent, Micheal McKinley would all have to either be in on the conspiracy or have been duped by it and still to this day not have figured that out or if they have figured it out testified to the opposite and so be complicit. All of those listed are incredibly intelligent government officials who have risen to near the top of the departments they work in with the exception of Sondland who paid Trump to get his position but still didn't come from money so we can assume isn't a fool as he's now mega rich. So which is the most likely. That Trump who we know from his history and his coconspirator's testimony who is now in jail has spent his life pushing the legal boundaries and all evidence points to what is alleged to have happened actually happened. Or that there is some massive conspiracy at the very highest levels of Gov to ruin Trump and yet no one involved has come forward or been exposed. I think Mr Occam and his razor has something to say about this.
 
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It isn't just her, there are lots of people involved, including congress-people and senators. I truely think Biden/Kerry/Hillary/Obama/Schiff/Bolton/Brennen/Pelosi/Romney. Even the whistleblower , who speeks fluent Russian/Ukrainian. This goes back to the tragic coup in Ukraine, in which 100 people(40 police) were killed by snipers to trigger the coup. And it's why you now see the likes of Biden, Kerry and Pelosi have children that 'work', by that I mean have paid directorships, in Ukrainian energy companies. THAT is why they are so nervous about Trump going after corruption in Ukraine - because all those names, and more, are guilty of corruption.

Trump took over from Obama, there are still lots of Obama's people still in places they can do damage to Trump. They have been after Trump since before he took office, because they though hillary would win and they didn't cover their tracks, so to stop Trump investigating they have been throwing everything they can at Trump, Russian meddling and now the impeachment failure, it all takes up valuable time that Trump could have been using to investigate THEM.

There is a lot more to it, but that will get you going.

That is the most deranged tin foil post I have ever seen on these forums and is not based on a single shred of fact. Its only in GD that you can get away posting made up fantasy like this.
 
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Or too big a truth bomb you just can't take it?

We will see.

Trruth bomb? What truth? You repeatedly fail to post any proof to back up your lizard leader CT or are you scared that if you did post the proof you have, Hilary would make sure you were "suicided"?
 
And then claim the whole of GD is conspiring on them and bullying them. :rolleyes:
Another misrepresentation... I was talking about Jono, you know, the one that's been up my arse for days.. there were a couple of others, but I don't remember saying it was the whole of GD??

There is a report post button for that if he genuinely thinks he has a point .
I can fight my own battles, I don't need to hide behind 'mods'. I was tempted, but he didn't go too far so fair enough - thanks for the advice though :)
 
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