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SyM166

SyM166

SyM166

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Hello guys,

Planning to build my new budget gaming desktop. Have some parts chosen already, but not sure they fine to each other. If you can give me some advice or change these parts, I will be appreciate!

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming pro carbon (dual wifi version)
RAM: Corsair Vengance RGB Pro 16gb 3200 mhz (2x8gb)
SSD: Corsair MP510 480GB

And now I have a problem...

Power supply: Corsair TX-M series 650W 80+ (not sure about this one and about W)
Water cooling: For later upgrades. Corsair hydro series H150i Pro. Anything less expensive than this one?
GPU: Looking for something quiet and quite powerful. I know there is Geforce RTX 2070 SUPER AMP, but the price is too high for me. Do you have any alternative for this one? Cant be noisy :/
I found:
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660Ti Gaming X 6G GDDR6. Is this ok?

I am not a pro gamer, probably wont play games like The Witcher with hairworks and uber details, thats why aiming for a desktop just under £1000. These parts fits perfectly, but if you guys have anything below £900 or even £800, that'd be awesome. Thanks for any help!
 
SyM166 said:
Water cooling: For later upgrades. Corsair hydro series H150i Pro. Anything less expensive than this one?

but if you guys have anything below £900 or even £800, that'd be awesome. Thanks for any help!
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Moving to a decent air cooler will gain significant savings ~£100+ depending on aesthetic required - and similar performance and arguably quieter - which seems to fit your remit. Plus, less points of failure so will be 'fit and ready' for future upgrades. I would put the savings towards a quiet(sic) GPU - that's geared towards the resolution of your now/future monitor.

What res do you game at/monitor brand and model?
 
Now it depends on the games. These more demanding runs at lets say 1440x990, but my PC is quite old. I can run at maximum 1920 with low FPS/stuttering.

Sorry for the link, didnt knew ;/

This is Samsung C27H580 full hd 27 inch curved monitor
 
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For a cheap but well performing water cooler then take a look at the arctic freezer ii series.

If your looking at the 1660ti then the 1660 super will give you pretty much the same performance for cheaper or the rtx 2060 will give more performance for not much extra spend.
 
The monitor is freesync

use stock cooler , nothing wrong with it

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £839.62 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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Joxeon said:
For a cheap but well performing water cooler then take a look at the arctic freezer ii series.

If your looking at the 1660ti then the 1660 super will give you pretty much the same performance for cheaper or the rtx 2060 will give more performance for not much extra spend.
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Found that card for about £60-70 cheaper, thanks !
And also, cooler seems to be alright based on reviews and what people say, about £100 less. Much appreciate :)

/\ Will look at your basket now :)

Btw, what freesync exactly does?
 
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FreeSync is an adaptive synchronization technology for liquid-crystal displays that support a dynamic refresh rate, aimed at avoiding tearing and reducing stuttering caused by misalignment with content's frame rate

for AMD Cards not Nvidia
 
So... graphic card is GDDR5, not 6. Any big difference between them two?
I have case already, which is Corsair Carbide series SPEC -06 RGB tempered glass with 2 fans inside back and front. Will change power supply for sure and I have already RAM memory and motherboard :) But that will be probably about £839-850 comparing to your basket

I see, got a lesson today ;) Have almost everything now in my basket
 
just note that there is the risk also with the motherboard you picked it may need a bios flash to take the 3600, depending on how old the stock is. the X570 will work out of the box.. Do you need wifi if you dont get a MSI Tomahawk MAX
 
I didnt realize. Checked people reviews and yes, they got problems. Thank you for letting me know. Will change it, thats not a problem

One more thing about GDDR5 and GDDR6 and I think we fine

Graphic card. Is it loud? Testers said, its quite noisy
 
Kurgen said:
The monitor is freesync

use stock cooler , nothing wrong with it

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £839.62 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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The B450 Gaming Pro Carbon is a better option if he needs a board with wifi, or get a cheaper one like the B450-A PRO and an adapter. The X570 Gaming Edge isn't a very good board anyway.

I would go with the Corsair TXM 550W for an extra £5 as it is semi modular so should help a bit with cable management.
 
The b450 pro carbon comes with bios flashback so updating the bios isn't a problem and an older CPU isn't needed.
 
Checked on youtube, how loud is that card. I am sure this is the new airbus ;o

Any alternative to radeon rx 590 ? Looking for something quiet unfortunately
 
SyM166 said:
aiming for a desktop just under £1000. These parts fits perfectly, but if you guys have anything below £900 or even £800, that'd be awesome. Thanks for any help!
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SyM166 said:
I have case already, which is Corsair Carbide series SPEC -06 RGB tempered glass with 2 fans inside back and front.
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Unsure what monitor you have but if considering 27" then 1440p is the ideal - you start to see pixels if you sit close to screen at 1080p. However, this is not an issue once immersed within a game or you sit a fair distance from your screen. So card choice down to you and what panel you think you may get or can tolerate - some users more than happy with 27" 1080p panels - even when up close and personal.

Build considers both options and prices are a guide for what you could build within your budget - or where saving could be made.
  • MSI B450 Carbon - new stock comes with up to date BIOS and a great value board for features/WIFi and compatibility @ ~£119
  • Ryzen 3600 ~£155
  • Memory 3200/3600 ~£60/75
  • PSU Corsair TXM 650W 7 year Guarantee - ~£69 (Could get the 550W option ~£60 for 1660 Super - but prefer 650W if thinking of 5700 XT - purely for cable connection)
  • 5700XT @ ~£320 for 1440p or the 1660 Super @ ~£210 for 1080p and want to keep prices to a minimum.
  • Sabrient Rocket 1TB NVMe ~£120 or to save money with no real life performance loss Crucial MX 500 1TB ~£99 (EDIT: Just noticed WD NVMe 1TB on sale at £105)
  • Third party cooler - add £25 to £50 for relative silence
1440p build with 5700XT and third party cooler ~£900 - but if you used the retail cooler, went with standard SSD and 3200 memory you could bring that down to ~£830

1080p build with 1660 Super 550W PSU and cooler ~£770 - again if you used the retail cooler, standard SSD, 3200 memory this brings the build down to a very respectable £700.

With your budget you can tweak the parts you feel are important to you - if silence is key quality semi passive PSU, decent third party 120mm cooler (doesn't need to be silly money) and a GPU that reviews well for model - but all are noisy under load but becomes irrelevant if you play with headphones (still wise to avoid the screamers).
 
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I can always adjust fans and voltage by program or in bios ;) Was looking for quiet graphic card, because I hate to hear all that noise next to me. To me to play games, best way is to chill and be happy doing this

Finally, I decided to get sapphire radeon nitro+ rx 580 8gbs due to reviews and tests. Positive feedback in both, performance and noise levels. For now, its just about £800. Better than I thought and thats because helpful people sitting over there, thanks guys ! ;)

The last question is power supply. 500W or more?

And what about sound card? They do any difference or totally waste of money? My friend used to have creative sound blaster or asus xonar and sound was little bit better, cant remember, but that was good couple of years ago.
 
Plec said:
Unsure what monitor you have but if considering 27" then 1440p is the ideal - you start to see pixels if you sit close to screen at 1080p. However, this is not an issue once immersed within a game or you sit a fair distance from your screen. So card choice down to you and what panel you think you may get or can tolerate - some users more than happy with 27" 1080p panels - even when up close and personal.

Build considers both options and prices are a guide for what you could build within your budget - or where saving could be made.
  • MSI B450 Carbon - new stock comes with up to date BIOS and a great value board for features/WIFi and compatibility @ ~£119
  • Ryzen 3600 ~£155
  • Memory 3200/3600 ~£60/75
  • PSU Corsair TXM 650W 7 year Guarantee - ~£69 (Could get the 550W option ~£60 for 1660 Super - but prefer 650W if thinking of 5700 XT - purely for cable connection)
  • 5700XT @ ~£320 for 1440p or the 1660 Super @ ~£210 for 1080p and want to keep prices to a minimum.
  • Sabrient Rocket 1TB NVMe ~£120 or to save money with no real life performance loss Crucial MX 500 1TB ~£99 (EDIT: Just noticed WD NVMe 1TB on sale at £105)
  • Third party cooler - add £25 to £50 for relative silence
1440p build with 5700XT and third party cooler ~£900 - but if you used the retail cooler, went with standard SSD and 3200 memory you could bring that down to ~£830

1080p build with 1660 Super 550W PSU and cooler ~£770 - again if you used the retail cooler, standard SSD, 3200 memory this brings the build down to a very respectable £700.

With your budget you can tweak the parts you feel are important to you - if silence is key quality semi passive PSU, decent third party 120mm cooler (doesn't need to be silly money) and a GPU that reviews well for model - but all are noisy under load but becomes irrelevant if you play with headphones (still wise to avoid the screamers).
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@Plec monitor is freesync
 
SyM166 said:
I can always adjust fans and voltage by program or in bios ;) Was looking for quiet graphic card, because I hate to hear all that noise next to me. To me to play games, best way is to chill and be happy doing this

Finally, I decided to get sapphire radeon nitro+ rx 580 8gbs due to reviews and tests. Positive feedback in both, performance and noise levels.

The last question is power supply. 500W or more?

And what about sound card? They do any difference or totally waste of money? My friend used to have creative sound blaster or asus xonar and sound was little bit better, cant remember, but that was good couple of years ago.
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some headsets come with a sound card built in especially usb ones, motherboard sound i believe is a lot better than it used to be, i havnt had a sound card since BF2 days
 
I can use my hyperX cloud headset of course, but what I want to do is to get speakers all around my desktop to fell all the experience and watch movies. Small cinema I'd say ;)
 
Kurgen said:
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MSI X570 boards are things to avoid.
That board has same VRM as MSI's B450 boards, but with extremely sabotaged cooling!
In fact any MSI below X570 Unify is pretty much scam.
Just like B450 boards of Asus and Gigabyte are crap for their price.

With unsabotaged cooling B450 Carbon would be lot better.
Same for B450 Tomahawk.


Kurgen said:
for AMD Cards not Nvidia
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FreeSync works just fine with Nvidia, who removed that artificial from the start disable FreeSync bit from drivers year ago.
So there's no rational reason to buy G-Sync monitor.
But for budget PC Nvidia graphics cards tend to have bad performance per price.
 
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