Several people shot dead in Hanau, near Frankfurt in Germany

Greebo said:
And if they aren't "ambitious and hard working" then I assume you are with Rob that they are then fair game to be shot and killed then?

How do you and Rob know that all the people killed in Hanau were "undiserables?"
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Yeah that's totally what I just said... just shoot them all.

Just a wild guess but I'm going to assume they weren't doctors, nurses or engineers etc..
 
Greebo said:
You really are a nasty piece of work arent you? I suppose on that basis you think immigrants in London should be exterminated as well do you?
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He described a potential motivation, he didn't say he agreed with it. You're the nasty one for making that implication.
 
Roar87 said:
He described a potential motivation, he didn't say he agreed with it. You're the nasty one for making that implication.
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As I said, whenever people describe potential motivations for Islamic terrorism people like you call them apologists.

And it's confirmed a far right terrorist attack, but hey

Roar87 said:
Some people prefer to essentially continue their apologist mindset by blaming the government and society for criminals committing crimes rather than accept that people are responsible for their own actions,
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Freakbro said:
As I said, whenever people describe potential motivations for Islamic terrorism people like you call them apologists.

And it's confirmed a far right terrorist attack, but hey
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There's no justification for shooting people, I haven't described his motivation because we don't know it, someone else did that; then someone else inferred that he agreed with the motivation which simply isn't accurate. I know you'd love the opportunity to call me a hypocrite but I haven't actually done that so I'm terribly sorry.
 
Greebo said:
Hardly when he clearly states that Merkle has blood on her hands.
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You're all over the place tbh... you've jumped from him being critical of Merkel's immigration policies to supposing that he thinks immigrants in London should be exterminated and then in some reply to me - shot and killed????

Why not address what has actually been written instead of throwing in silly stuff like that if you're going to reply?
 
Knew this would be a far right attack. There was a large anti-Islam demo in Dresden either yesterday or the day before. Looks like they succeeded in winding one ******** up enough for him to go on a spree.

Edit: March was on Monday.
 
Sounded more like a tit for tat gang thing given the initial reporting.

Given that though I’ll update my prior re : the comment to the other poster if these are randoms rather than gang violence then they could be from any walk of life.
 
VincentHanna said:
You really have no shame.

I visited Germany (Berlin) in 2004 and back then they had loads of Shisha bars. Merkel wasn't even chancellor then.
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Germany had a workforce crisis in the 1960s and invited Turkish worker migrants in, seems to have really worked out well for them in the long run, I mean, their descendants don't cause any issues at all (LOL).

Some infoz from Wiki

  • The first generation of "guest workers" did not have an elevated crime rate, but studies carried out in the 1970s and 1980s suggested that second- and third-generation immigrants had higher crime rates than their German contemporaries who were not from an immigrant background.
  • A 1991 Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich study covering the preceding two decades found that crime rates were higher among immigrants with a strongly different cultural background from Germans. Under the guest worker programme, Turks and Yugoslavs had far higher crime rates than Spaniards and Portuguese, while the highest crime rates were recorded among individuals from third world countries. For third world countries, the immigrants were first generation.
Unrestricted Immigration of the third world is awesome, I don't know why we don't just invite everyone, I mean who doesn't enjoy massive increases in violent crime, aside from the bigots and xenophobes I mean (or whatever other Buzzword you could use)?
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Germany had a workforce crisis in the 1960s and invited Turkish worker migrants in, seems to have really worked out well for them in the long run, I mean, their descendants don't cause any issues at all (LOL).

Some infoz from Wiki

  • The first generation of "guest workers" did not have an elevated crime rate, but studies carried out in the 1970s and 1980s suggested that second- and third-generation immigrants had higher crime rates than their German contemporaries who were not from an immigrant background.
  • A 1991 Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich study covering the preceding two decades found that crime rates were higher among immigrants with a strongly different cultural background from Germans. Under the guest worker programme, Turks and Yugoslavs had far higher crime rates than Spaniards and Portuguese, while the highest crime rates were recorded among individuals from third world countries. For third world countries, the immigrants were first generation.
Unrestricted Immigration of the third world is awesome, I don't know why we don't just invite everyone, I mean who doesn't enjoy massive increases in violent crime, aside from the bigots and xenophobes I mean (or whatever other Buzzword you could use)?
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What you've done there is confirmation bias.

You've cherry picked the bits from the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime_in_Germany that support your argument and ignored the bits that don't, such as:

Trends in criminal activity since the 1990s[edit]
Studies in the early 2000s tended to show little correlation between migrants and crime in Germany.[13][14]

From the start of 2015 to the end of 2017, 1356600 asylum seekers were registered in total.[4] According to a 2018 study by German criminologists, the crime rate of non-Germans between the ages of 16 and 30 is within the same range as that of Germans.[15] In May 2016, U.S. fact-checker Politifact suggested that, as crimes by immigrants rose 79 percent in 2015 and the number of refugees in the country rose by 440 percent, the crime rate among refugees was lower than that among German natives.[16]

In November 2015, a report by the Federal Criminal Police (BKA) stated that "While the number of refugees is rising very dynamically, the development of crime does not increase to the same extent." the report noted that refugees Kosovo, aus Serbien and Macedonia were overrepresented and Iraqis were underrepresented. The report did not contain representation for refugees from North Africa.[17]
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Harming innocent people is never justified means of political persuasion and will always work against you.

If the aim of the Islamist is to convert us all to Islam, just look at how convinced we are every time an Islamic attack happens. We move further away from wanting to embrace Islam.

The same works for right wing extremists. Every time innocent people are killed there is a drive to be more diverse and multicultural and less to actually talk about the impacts of unprecedented mass immigration. But then are the people involved in these attacks ever rational, I don't think so.

Anyway it seems the guy was an unhinged conspiracy theorist.
Someone was saying he had said he believed there were secret execution camps run by the U.S. Military where they kill children and all sorts of other lunatic fringe things. This is the problem with extremist material of any persuasion online, it can easily find it's way into weak minds

Does anyone know what German gun laws are?

RIP :(
 
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The sad irony here is hes picked on a community that believes in western ideals like freedom of speech and free press etc, the Kurds get a rough time no matter where they are.
 
What a nightmare. Killed his own mother too, by the sounds of it.

It'll be interesting to learn about his route to radicalisation. I'm guessing he had a strong online meme game and a bookshelf heavy with nazi crap.
 
Freakbro said:
Remember when people get called terrorist sympathisers and hand waving apologists by Rob et al when they put forward reasons for the motivations of Islamic attacks...
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I'm not seeing any difference here? Islamic attacks are due to one Islamic ideology and the other is due to Nazi ideology, both are twisted psychos. Where's the hypocrisy?

Greebo said:
You really are a nasty piece of work arent you? I suppose on that basis you think immigrants in London should be exterminated as well do you?
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That's right, let throw out the baby out with the bathwater and go to extreme hyperbole. Why not blow up the whole planet while we're at it :rolleyes:
 
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