Several people shot dead in Hanau, near Frankfurt in Germany

So how do these pipe smoking gaffs work then? Is there not any no smoking ban in Germany for pubs, clubs and bars? Someone mentioned these places exist in the UK how do they circumvent the no smoking law? Never come across one in the UK.


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What? Do you mean the book stated it so i gotta follow what it says?
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White men aren't allowed to be mentally ill, he's a far-right terrorist

I think anyone who buys into that kind of hatred has to be mentally unwell. It's very tricky to look at the world through the eyes of someone with such issues, but I think it's important to try to understand them. If you found yourself in a similar position, what would it take for you to turn your back on it and seek a more productive, reality-based existence?

"sigma, post: 33366573, member: 54784"]Was it called GD? :o

I don't know what you mean - nothing but lovely, well balanced folk in GD. :)
 
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It still amazes me that Merkel seems so clueless as to why this is happening. You can't just open up your country to millions of people that hold incompatible views and not expect the crazies to rise up in response. It was always going to happen. The innocent people that have died from both Islamic terrorists and far right extremists is down to her stupid decisions.

She talks about racism and hate, but her actions have directly affected Germany's Jewish population who are now faced with the possibility of having to move out of the country because of a sharp increase in antisemitism. I wonder why antisemitism is on the rise... Couldn't possibly have anything to do with letting millions of people in that belong to a religion that despises Jews, right?
 
I think anyone who buys into that kind of hatred has to be mentally unwell. It's very tricky to look at the world through the eyes of someone with such issues, but I think it's important to try to understand them. If you found yourself in a similar position, what would it take for you to turn your back on it and seek a more productive, reality-based existence?

There's some clearly unwell people even on this Forum if you ask me. Believing absolutely ludicrous conspiracy theories etc.

I won't name names.
 
Just because you are a muslim, doesn't mean you "despise Jews"

I'd agree with your comment to an extend if we were mainly talking about "Westernised" Muslims. However in the Middle East, where a lot of the recent influx of migrants have come from, it's still a valid concern to have, at least so far as I can tell from my near 20 years experience of living/working in the area.
 
There's some clearly unwell people even on this Forum if you ask me. Believing absolutely ludicrous conspiracy theories etc.

I won't name names.

Quite possibly, Vince. What can "we" (the rest of society) do to help them? I'll ask you the same question that I asked Roar:

If you found yourself in a similar position, what would it take for you to turn your back on it and seek a more productive, reality-based existence?

For me, I think I'd need a sympathetic ear to listen to my underlying problems which led me to abandon reality, and gradually lead me back on the straight and narrow.
 
Just because you are a muslim, doesn't mean you "despise Jews"

Anyway, Turkish migrants have been part of German society for 50 years+

When my younger German grandson, (my son married a German girl), started seeing a Turko-German girl, I said to my son, “She seems like a keeper, attractive, smart, and obviously bang in love with Mark, you’re not concerned about the Muslim thing are you?”
He replied, “You have to be kidding, her family own a Turkish restaurant, we get invited for freebies all the time, her father is the only guy I know who drinks as much vodka as you, and her parents and brothers love Mark like their own.”
Her family are welcome in my son’s house, anytime.
 
Yeah that's totally what I just said... just shoot them all.

Just a wild guess but I'm going to assume they weren't doctors, nurses or engineers etc..

Careful Dowie, you are starting to let your racism show there....................
 
Careful Dowie, you are starting to let your racism show there....................

Because hang members are unlikely to be Doctors and Engineers? You’re starting to just show your own stupidity tbh... ignoring what has been said and in what context and just throwing in silly accusations.
 
It still amazes me that Merkel seems so clueless as to why this is happening. You can't just open up your country to millions of people that hold incompatible views and not expect the crazies to rise up in response. It was always going to happen. The innocent people that have died from both Islamic terrorists and far right extremists is down to her stupid decisions.

She talks about racism and hate, but her actions have directly affected Germany's Jewish population who are now faced with the possibility of having to move out of the country because of a sharp increase in antisemitism. I wonder why antisemitism is on the rise... Couldn't possibly have anything to do with letting millions of people in that belong to a religion that despises Jews, right?

Careful G-Man, Greebo will come along and brand you a nasty piece of work for suggesting such a thing :rolleyes:
 
Because hang members are unlikely to be Doctors and Engineers? You’re starting to just show your own stupidity tbh... ignoring what has been said and in what context and just throwing in silly accusations.

Why do you assume that they are gang members? All we knew at the time was that they were at a shisha bar. You make the massive assumption that they are not going to be doctors purely based on who they are. That is abotu as racist as you can be.
 
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