Security guard (The Brighton cat killer) to face trial over spate of fatal attacks on cats

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as a nation of animal lovers the animal cruelty sentencing is a damn joke, only good thing Micheal Gove seems to have done is introduce a new maximum term for 5 years for animal cruelty
 
robfosters said:
We should probably wait until he’s found guilty first before we start proposing unpleasant feline related methods of disposal.
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You’re right of course Rob, I let my heart rule my head there, but that’s me, an incurable animal lover.
There is a pigeon, nicknamed Walter, (older posters will get that), who waits on our first floor kitchen patio for me to throw him crusts of pizza in the morning, Arthur the fox, who climbs the iron stairs from the rear garden to said patio, and almost eats bits of meat from my hand, and finally Sid the squirrel, who does take biscuits from my hand, and once hopped over the sliding door bottom runner and followed me into the kitchen when I was a bit slow going back for the biscuits.
 
This is a hard one

In one way I think the guy should be locked up and the key throwed away

But in another way I think of the way loads of things are killed for food, Money, hobbies, sport and fun examples like rabbits, fish, chickens, pigs, cows, birds etc

So how much difference is there between someone that shoots an kills birds, rabbits etc for fun compared to this guy (if you didn't include the cats are someone pets)
 
chaparral said:
So how much difference is there between someone that shoots an kills birds, rabbits etc for fun compared to this guy (if you didn't include the cats are someone pets)
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I think you've answered your own question there.

I mean, how much difference is there between someone who takes photos of wild animals for fun, compared to someone who hangs around taking photos kids in the park with a telephoto lens?
 
chaparral said:
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So how much difference is there between someone that shoots an kills rabbits, birds etc for fun compared to this guy (if you didn't include the cats are someone pets)
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I would like to think that everyone in Great Britain believes that killing or torturing any animal for "fun" is abhorrent.
Fox hunting and hare coursing are of course still very popular in some quarters :rolleyes:
 
chaparral said:
But in another way I think of the way loads of things are killed for food, Money, hobbies, sport and fun examples like rabbits, fish, chickens, pigs, cows, birds etc

So how much difference is there between someone that shoots an kills birds, rabbits etc for fun compared to this guy (if you didn't include the cats are someone pets)
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The killing of animals for food is regulated in the UK. Killing game for food doesn’t involve torturing or poisoning etc...

Killing rabbits is often a useful thing for some farmers etc.. and killing of stags etc.. is generally managing the herd/killing those that might be otherwise taken by predators if wolves were around.

Poisoning rats in areas where they’re breeding out of control helps to stop them from becoming a health hazard etc...

That’s all rather different to someone torturing or poisoning someone’s pet. One aspect is the animal cruelty itself, which we have laws against, the other aspect is the emotional loss for the human owner too (this the criminal damage charge).

I don’t see why you’d draw a false equivalence tbh... I mean for example if I find a spider in the bathtub I’d look to capture it in a glass and put it outside. If I find a fly in my kitchen I’ll swat it, if I found a bee in my lounge I’d open the window and try to get rid of it. Different animals, different situations etc...
 
chaparral said:
This is what I also think
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Even the RSPCA's guidance on "humanely" destroying unwanted chicks in the egg industry is ****** up

https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-with-male-chicks-in-the-egg-industry/

The Model Code of Practice for the Welfare of Animals: Domestic Poultry states that all culled or surplus newly hatched chicks that are destined for disposal must be treated as humanely as those that will be retained or sold. The Code states that these chicks must be killed promptly by carbon dioxide gassing or quick maceration. Chicks must then be carefully inspected to ensure they are all are dead.

Quick maceration ensures the chick is killed within a second and, if carried out effectively and competently, this method may be considered more humane than gassing with high concentrations of carbon dioxide. Gassing results in gasping and head shaking and, depending on the mixture of gases used, it may take up to two minutes for the chick to die.
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Don't click it if you don't want to see the reality of the egg industry


That...... is supposedly humane :mad:

Yet we have the hypocrisy to condemn people who are cruel to animals which are pets, I guess cruelty is okay if the end result is full stomach :rolleyes:
 
NVP said:
Is it considered ironic when a killer of cats has a beak like a blackbird?
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:D

The CCTV image gave him away just a tad.

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Minusorange said:
Don't click it if you don't want to see the reality of the egg industry


That...... is supposedly humane :mad:

Yet we have the hypocrisy to condemn people who are cruel to animals which are pets, I guess cruelty is okay if the end result is full stomach :rolleyes:
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Don’t see the issue tbh...

Are you also pro-life/anti abortion out of interest?

Those chicks have just been hatched/are barely aware of anything and are killed very quickly/efficiently.
 
The topic is about people pets being killed for no real reason, not what happens in the food industry (I do not agree with chick male shredding or any cruelty) or what goes on in nature.

If someone cannot make a distinction between someone shooting a deer to eat (not my thing) or killing a rat in your home or a cat killing a bird in the garden to someone going around killing peoples pets then there is something wrong with you.
 
dowie said:
Don’t see the issue tbh...

Are you also pro-life/anti abortion out of interest?

Those chicks have just been hatched/are barely aware of anything and are killed very quickly/efficiently.
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I'm pro choice, if they could destroy the chicks before they are hatched and are conscious I would have no problem with them being destroyed, just like I have no problem aborting an unconscious fetus

The big irony is those poor chicks become cat food
 
Minusorange said:
I'm pro choice, if they could destroy the chicks before they are hatched and are conscious I would have no problem with them being destroyed, just like I have no problem aborting an unconscious fetus

The big irony is those poor chicks become cat food
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I don’t see a huge issue, they do apparently wake up at times during the last stages of incubation anyway so whether they’re inside or outside the egg isn’t making a huge difference here, they’ve still only just hatched and are barely aware of anything.
 
I just cannot get my head around that, It is baby chick holocaust. I would say Jesus wept but he killed 5000 fish so. :p
 
chaparral said:
This is a hard one

In one way I think the guy should be locked up and the key throwed away

But in another way I think of the way loads of things are killed for food, Money, hobbies, sport and fun examples like rabbits, fish, chickens, pigs, cows, birds etc

So how much difference is there between someone that shoots an kills birds, rabbits etc for fun compared to this guy (if you didn't include the cats are someone pets)
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Killing is killing to me, doesn't matter what type of animal it is or for what reason, we eat meat for pleasure, the killing of animals isn't necessary so I don't see a distinction.
 
dowie said:
Bit vague? Why isn’t life precious?

Not all life is equal - you ever killed a fly? You’ve said you’re pro-choice.
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So its just selective preciousness then

Why is all life not equal ? Why is a cat more worthy ?

If the guy had put the cats in a macerator would you see no issue too ?

How do you feel about the law and allowing people to run over cats and carry on driving, while the law requires you to stop if you hit a pig or a sheep (but they are food and less worthy :confused:)
 
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