Do i need more then a 360 rad??
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what kind of temps are you seeing at the moment with just the cpu?, any gpu that's added to the loop will require 120mm of additional cooling, I'd say you should be ok to add a gpu to your loop but don't overclock your card.
On the flip side if you plan to apply a gpu overclock then I'd say add an extra 240mm rad minimum, as off memory 1080ti's can pull over 280w of power once overclocked.
On the flip side if you plan to apply a gpu overclock then I'd say add an extra 240mm rad minimum, as off memory 1080ti's can pull over 280w of power once overclocked.
im getting around 65c on the cpu when i stress it on OCCT its hit a max 68-70 i think and no i wont be overclocking the card
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Depends on the rad. If it's a good one such as a Hardware Labs Black Ice or similar then it should cope but if it's a cheap 25mm thick rad then it most likely won't. What rad do you have and what fans are you using? I don't suppose you have a water temp monitor?
as above we need to know the thickness of your rad, and fans that your using, adding a gpu into your loop with cpu temps at around 65-75 will likely push up to near 80 in the worst case scenario, the gpu will be cool ish but expect around 50-52 degrees under load, and i expect idle temps to be in the mid 30's perhaps low 40's. but it all comes down to how tick your rad is and how fast you run your fans, a lot of variables to look at
the cpu never gos above 68c more like 65-70 normaly 68c on OCCT and prime95. The the rad is a EK-CoolStream Classic SE 360 slim copper 27mm and i have 3 corsair LL120s that dont start speeding up till 55-60c i think. may reason i want the gpu on the loop is it gets hot around 80c.
if you add your card you'll need to change the fan profile's (have them sped up around 40c) as that rad isn't the thickest on the market, with the fan rps altered you'd be looking around 419w cooling for that rad, wont lie it wouldn't be the quietest loop but it would get the job done if you stuck with a 360mm rad, just as above no gpu overclocking though.
have you thought about changing the thermal past on the gpu?
have you thought about changing the thermal past on the gpu?
i wont mind the noise tbh i wont hear it over a game or the or the kids lol and i have changed the paste it just hot it dose push its self to 2Ghz then lowers to 1.95 GHz around 80c its a zotec amp 1080ti
fair enough it that case as long as you alter fan rpm's and have them spin up sooner you should be good to go, gpu will run cooler but don't expect stellar results, I'd say somewhere in the low to mid 50's should be where the card will sit under load on your loop.
how's case airflow?
edit, have you though about setting a power limit for the card? instead of 100% drop it back to 80% and the card will boost to 80% thus dropping temps, use msi afterburner and change the power limit slider, or use the temp slider below it (eg: set max temp 65 degrees)
how's case airflow?
edit, have you though about setting a power limit for the card? instead of 100% drop it back to 80% and the card will boost to 80% thus dropping temps, use msi afterburner and change the power limit slider, or use the temp slider below it (eg: set max temp 65 degrees)
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i have a lian-li pc-o11dx dynamic with 3 intake and 3 out the 3 out on the rad and no i dont want to limt the gpu
thats still a huge
improvement
Same case as me nearly i have the lian li o11 dynamic, 2*360mm pe classic rads from ek and the distro plate XD
I'd say order all the necessary bits and bobs and see how the pc performs, gpu will be cooler that's for sure
nice cases especially for the price think ill stay with the 360 then and hopefully be fine.
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I was going to post an "essay" on my similar situation regarding adding a second radiator but thought the following would suffice.
I would suggest you watch this excellent video on "BoostedMedia Youtube" site on "How to set up PC Fans & Pumps for Minimum Temps and Noise - PC Thermal Management".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOZu8qJ0PY&list=PLq1vJmvliZQM3HalTLiebYyrIYsxcL8cs&index=20&t=0s
Then invest in a water temp sensor for inside your loop and a means by which you can monitor ambient temps. Do some data logging using the same "constant" testing method (same benchmark software, constant fan speeds) on your system before and after you add the GPU to the loop. Then base your decision regarding the 2nd radiator on your findings.
In my case, the initial radiator being a 360x38mm EK PE radiator was sufficient for my 3900x CPU and RTX 2080 TI GPU both covered in EK water blocks to produce a Delta-T of 8 degrees celsius (with a maximum delta of 10 degrees celsius), average CPU temperature of 49 degrees celsius (with a peak of 57 degrees celsius) and the average GPU temperature of 47 degrees celsius (with a peak of 52 degrees celsius). The water temperature in the system has never gone over 38 degrees celsius. The air temperature inside the case is around 13 degrees celsius above ambient. After fitting a second 360x28mm EK SE radiator I saw the same readings as above with the fans and water pump at the same settings and I therefore did not need the second radiator.
Admittedly my first radiator core is thicker than yours, and after watching the above video you may change your fan setup within your case, but you may also be surprised at how efficient your system is. Good luck. HTH.
I would suggest you watch this excellent video on "BoostedMedia Youtube" site on "How to set up PC Fans & Pumps for Minimum Temps and Noise - PC Thermal Management".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOZu8qJ0PY&list=PLq1vJmvliZQM3HalTLiebYyrIYsxcL8cs&index=20&t=0s
Then invest in a water temp sensor for inside your loop and a means by which you can monitor ambient temps. Do some data logging using the same "constant" testing method (same benchmark software, constant fan speeds) on your system before and after you add the GPU to the loop. Then base your decision regarding the 2nd radiator on your findings.
In my case, the initial radiator being a 360x38mm EK PE radiator was sufficient for my 3900x CPU and RTX 2080 TI GPU both covered in EK water blocks to produce a Delta-T of 8 degrees celsius (with a maximum delta of 10 degrees celsius), average CPU temperature of 49 degrees celsius (with a peak of 57 degrees celsius) and the average GPU temperature of 47 degrees celsius (with a peak of 52 degrees celsius). The water temperature in the system has never gone over 38 degrees celsius. The air temperature inside the case is around 13 degrees celsius above ambient. After fitting a second 360x28mm EK SE radiator I saw the same readings as above with the fans and water pump at the same settings and I therefore did not need the second radiator.
Admittedly my first radiator core is thicker than yours, and after watching the above video you may change your fan setup within your case, but you may also be surprised at how efficient your system is. Good luck. HTH.
yeah was a very good video i think ill stick with the single rad and go from there
More rad area can mean lower fan speed for that same cooling (Temps). Like @George Hudson I have two PE 360's in my loop (CPU is the same, GPU is a 1080 Ti). My water never goes above 38 either, may fans are set at 850 rpm on both rads. As I type this, Water is at 27 and case ambient is 28 (if you believe the EK Loop Connect probe) - I spent a long time getting the air out of the loop which brought water temp down.
Keep thinking of a Magnitude block for my CPU but my plan is to get a 4000 series when it comes out so will probably wait till then.
Keep thinking of a Magnitude block for my CPU but my plan is to get a 4000 series when it comes out so will probably wait till then.
without a shadow of a doubt get one, had mine (nickel/plexi) for a few weeks and its a beast, dropped my peak temps under gaming load by almost 15 degrees (79 to 63), benchmarking my PC is also a lot better noticed a 12 degree drop (86 to 74) the old temps were at stock speed on a old velocity block vs the new ones where my cpu is at 4.4ghz on all cores with the new magnitude block.
downside is they are expensive but offer really good cooling am4 wise and do look the part once installed
a quick update it runs fine on the rad gpu gets to 40c after 30mins on full load and cpu much cooler as well think its due to lack of hot air coming off the gpu 
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my cpu block is awithout a shadow of a doubt get one, had mine (nickel/plexi) for a few weeks and its a beast, dropped my peak temps under gaming load by almost 15 degrees (79 to 63), benchmarking my PC is also a lot better noticed a 12 degree drop (86 to 74) the old temps were at stock speed on a old velocity block vs the new ones where my cpu is at 4.4ghz on all cores with the new magnitude block.
downside is they are expensive but offer really good cooling am4 wise and do look the part once installed
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