Lets help the Government out!

Efour said:
I heard their are some crops that need picking
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Plenty people claiming UC and will be even more shortly. UK should start to utilise people on UC who are looking for work, if you don't go picking crops then they suspend your UC. Simple as that. :D

If they choose to go picking crops they get a full wage for the months they work. Gives them a little incentive to make more money.
 
Guest2 said:
All the people who don't work who are able to could try looking for a job instead of being 3rd / 4th generation scroungers
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Yes, let's look to those who have nothing to solve the financial crisis. :p

We'll be lucky to have jobs for experienced workers who have worked all their life, and you think we'll have jobs for the long term unemployed who have little or no skills?
 
mrbell1984 said:
If they choose to go picking crops they get a full wage for the months they work. Gives them a little incentive to make more money
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Basically get the government to subsidise the wages for farmers and at the same time ensure the forced labour is endorsed by the state and not just the eastern European gang leaders.

I think you need to double check the thread title. :p
 
Dirk Diggler said:
Basically get the government to subsidise the wages for farmers and at the same time ensure the forced labour is endorsed by the state and not just the eastern European gang leaders.

I think you need to double check the thread title. :p
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I don’t want to help the government out. They are supposed to help the people and state not the other way around.

It was probably the governments idea to fly people in to work in the fields to save money.
 
DireEmblem said:
Ok so lots of interesting ideas here. I'll now add mine to the mix. Everyone in the UK should buy Premium Bonds.

It should be a win/win for you and the government. You have a chance to win a cool £1m every month, the more you put in, the more chances of winning!

Government wise - the interest paid out to PB's is less than some of the longer term GILT rates, so in theory may reduce the amount of interest they need to pay on borrowings, resulting in the Government paying off their debt quicker.

It might take a lot of people to invest in premium bonds, but its a start!
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So the people should give the government a low interest loan? Because the people have too much money as it is.

That's quite frankly ridiculous.

Why can't Dyson, Richard Branson, etc give the government an interest free loan instead after all its the people that made them rich in the first place.

To suggest that normal people go out and throw away money to help the government is terrible.

If you want to invest you need to invest above inflation. Not below it.

Idea is worse than raising vat to 40% and that was a terrible idea.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
So the people should give the government a low interest loan? Because the people have too much money as it is.

That's quite frankly ridiculous.

Why can't Dyson, Richard Branson, etc give the government an interest free loan instead after all its the people that made them rich in the first place.

To suggest that normal people go out and throw away money to help the government is terrible.

If you want to invest you need to invest above inflation. Not below it.

Idea is worse than raising vat to 40% and that was a terrible idea.
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Thank you for your kind input and your understanding of how things work Capor, very helpful insight there :D
 
I suggest you do nothing because well you have no power to do anything.

You don’t set the rules, you don’t make the laws and you do not set financial policy. Just do as your told, pay your taxes and make sure you vote every 4 years, pretty much everything else is out of your control.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
Why can't Dyson, Richard Branson, etc give the government an interest free loan instead after all its the people that made them rich in the first place.
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Because they can't afford too as they don't have anywhere near enough money?

When the internet says a person is worth X billion it doesn't mean they actually have that much money (aside from a handful of people with the first name sheik), it means they're a millionaire who own things or shares in things worth X billion. In many cases the companies/investments may not even be worth that much it's just their share value is because people overpay for them based on the expectation they will be worth more in the future (I.E Amazon).

This is why it's so retarded when people moan that Richard Branson should pay to bail out Virgin Air himself, people are basically demanding that he sells or mortgages his home/etc in order to keep a company he part owns afloat, when the government should be stepping in to help like they are for other companies.
 
ubersonic said:
Because they can't afford too as they don't have anywhere near enough money?

When the internet says a person is worth X billion it doesn't mean they actually have that much money (aside from a handful of people with the first name sheik), it means they're a millionaire who own things or shares in things worth X billion. In many cases the companies/investments may not even be worth that much it's just their share value is because people overpay for them based on the expectation they will be worth more in the future (I.E Amazon).

This is why it's so retarded when people moan that Richard Branson should pay to bail out Virgin Air himself, people are basically demanding that he sells or mortgages his home/etc in order to keep a company he part owns afloat, when the government should be stepping in to help like they are for other companies.
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He has plenty of money. He doesn't need to own 100 companies sell some and bail out the rest himself.

Why should taxpayers bail him out?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
He has plenty of money. He doesn't need to own 100 companies sell some and bail out the rest himself.

Why should taxpayers bail him out?
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That's not even Daily Mail logic, it's Daily Star logic.

If Branson needs to sell his assets to bail out a company he doesn't even own outright, then every company director in the country better dig the mortgage paperwork out and the V5 log book for the family car. :rolleyes:
 
Psycho Sonny said:
He has plenty of money. He doesn't need to own 100 companies sell some and bail out the rest himself.
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Do you not realise how stupid that premise is? You're basically saying he should sell his shares in the airline then use that money to bankroll the airline he no longer owns any stake in >.>


Psycho Sonny said:
Why should taxpayers bail him out?
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He doesn't need bailing out, I think this is the thing so many have difficulty understanding. It is the company Virgin Air that has money problems, the man Richard Branson who owns a controlling share in it does not. To put it in perspective, I own shares in AMD, that doesn't mean that if AMD ends up in financial trouble that I should be forced to bail them out.

If you don't think taxpayers should save Virgin Air (and keep all it's employees off the dole) due to COVID-19 then do you also feel that small/medium businesses shouldn't be getting grants? How about taxpayer money being used to ensure people off work due to lockdown still get paid?
 
ubersonic said:
Do you not realise how stupid that premise is? You're basically saying he should sell his shares in the airline then use that money to bankroll the airline he no longer owns any stake in >.>



He doesn't need bailing out, I think this is the thing so many have difficulty understanding. It is the company Virgin Air that has money problems, the man Richard Branson who owns a controlling share in it does not. To put it in perspective, I own shares in AMD, that doesn't mean that if AMD ends up in financial trouble that I should be forced to bail them out.

If you don't think taxpayers should save Virgin Air (and keep all it's employees off the dole) due to COVID-19 then do you also feel that small/medium businesses shouldn't be getting grants? How about taxpayer money being used to ensure people off work due to lockdown still get paid?
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we shall see who is right in 6 months. our economy is being ruined by overspending.

shall we just bail out every company that operates here? who is going to pay for that us?

letting them all die wouldn't be the worst thing. it would normalise house prices for a start. in fact prices of most things would become cheaper. but no rather live in a world where people would rather spend £80 a month on a mobile phone and £500 a month on a car than have savings.
 
DireEmblem said:
Ok so lots of interesting ideas here. I'll now add mine to the mix. Everyone in the UK should buy Premium Bonds.

It should be a win/win for you and the government. You have a chance to win a cool £1m every month, the more you put in, the more chances of winning!

Government wise - the interest paid out to PB's is less than some of the longer term GILT rates, so in theory may reduce the amount of interest they need to pay on borrowings, resulting in the Government paying off their debt quicker.

It might take a lot of people to invest in premium bonds, but its a start!
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My knowledge of history is a bit vague, but didn’t the Government adopt a similar scheme during / after the Second World War using bonds to help restart the economy?

Edit - War bonds I was thinking of
 
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Universal Basic Income. Close down the bloated benefits system and it's easily affordable. Benefit is replaced with no stigma attached and those in work have extra income that they can fall back on if made unemployed. Those in safe jobs will invariably spend said monies and the economy will recover faster.
 
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