What RAM for Ryzen 4000 and now?

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Hi All

I will be upgrading to Ryzen 4000 as soon as it comes out. However I only have 16gb of ram and i need 32 for the games i play now (yes im actually running out) so i want to buy a new 32GB kit but what should i get keeping in mind i will want it to work with the next gen ryzen.

I currently have the 8Pack 3200mhz kit What woudl you buy today? Currently on 1st gen ryzen.
 
I think 3,800 Mhz will be the official supported speed. Early rumors have stated that 4,000 Mhz will be the current 3,600 Mhz and 4,200 will be like 3,800 is now for Zen 2 where most chips can't do it.

More details should surface in late June with the Matisse 2 refresh to see if AMD has increased the level of the IMC to an official 3,600. From that we can guess if 4,000 will be supported by most chips.

It's a really bad time to be buying RAM to run at XMP with future speeds in mind.
 
GregI said:
I think 3,800 Mhz will be the official supported speed. Early rumors have stated that 4,000 Mhz will be the current 3,600 Mhz and 4,200 will be like 3,800 is now for Zen 2 where most chips can't do it.

More details should surface in late June with the Matisse 2 refresh to see if AMD has increased the level of the IMC to an official 3,600. From that we can guess if 4,000 will be supported by most chips.

It's a really bad time to be buying RAM to run at XMP with future speeds in mind.
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but with the infinity fabric now not linked directly to ram speed would a 3600mhz kit cause that much issue on R4000?
 
The rumours are of higher memory support and FCLK so I expect 4000MHz to be achievable.

The Patriot Vipers seem to be quite good from what people have mentioned on here.

Personally I would suggest you wait for the 4000 to launch before you make decisions but if you have to buy now I would be looking for sticks that are sold as high frequency sticks so you have the option of running them at those speeds if the 4000 series can achieve higher clocks or running slower speeds with tighter timings.

I do believe the Patriot Vipers fall in that category.
 
Randall8686 said:
but with the infinity fabric now not linked directly to ram speed would a 3600mhz kit cause that much issue on R4000?
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I haven't read anything about infinity fabric not being linked to RAM speed. If you mean the decoupling for 3000 this is technically correct but then latency penalty exists.
 
GregI said:
I think 3,800 Mhz will be the official supported speed. Early rumors have stated that 4,000 Mhz will be the current 3,600 Mhz and 4,200 will be like 3,800 is now for Zen 2 where most chips can't do it.

More details should surface in late June with the Matisse 2 refresh to see if AMD has increased the level of the IMC to an official 3,600. From that we can guess if 4,000 will be supported by most chips.

It's a really bad time to be buying RAM to run at XMP with future speeds in mind.
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Interesting. I've just bought 3600MHz C14 kit. Probably has the potential to run 4000MHz C16 if needed, maybe...
 
Randall8686 said:
Hi All

I will be upgrading to Ryzen 4000 as soon as it comes out. However I only have 16gb of ram and i need 32 for the games i play now (yes im actually running out) so i want to buy a new 32GB kit but what should i get keeping in mind i will want it to work with the next gen ryzen.

I currently have the 8Pack 3200mhz kit What woudl you buy today? Currently on 1st gen ryzen.
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What games need 32GB? I would buy this one as you know it's Samsung b-die and you know it will run at 3600 and possibly faster and it also says it's ideal for ryzen 3000/4000. My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £238.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
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We have no idea how high these 4000 chips will be able to go on the memory.

The rumoured refresh of the 3000 series has the FCLK at 2000MHz. Which means the 4000 series could be doing memory as high as 4400MHz.

Meaning an FCLK of 2200MHz.

This is why I said buying memory sticks rated for these speeds at least gives you the ability to hit them if it is that high or downclock them if it isn't.

Better yet, don't buy a thing until the chips release.
 
M4xson said:
What games need 32GB? I would buy this one as you know it's Samsung b-die and you know it will run at 3600 and possibly faster and it also says it's ideal for ryzen 3000/4000. My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £238.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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Save yourself 30 quid and get this stuff and tune it up yourself as its the same bin as the 3600 stuff.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £208.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
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