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Russinating said:
Your post scares me. I don't want to sound offensive but it has all the hallmarks of impending doom. You should certainly know what an ISA allowance is and what the CGT rate is before piling thousands of pounds into the stockmarket. And 20 stocks at that.

I would stop what you're doing, potentially even sell everything, and pick up a copy of Naked Trader to learn the basics, fundamentals and terminology.

As above, your comments on Tesla are particularly worrying.
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Certainly. They valued higher than Toyota on market cap. More than Ford and GM combined. In fact they surpassed Toyota, the worlds largest car manufacturer, on market cap a few days ago. Yet Toyota has consistently made a profit for many years. Toyata has 10x the revenue.
 
Russinating said:
Your post scares me. I don't want to sound offensive but it has all the hallmarks of impending doom. You should certainly know what an ISA allowance is and what the CGT rate is before piling thousands of pounds into the stockmarket. And 20 stocks at that.

I would stop what you're doing, potentially even sell everything, and pick up a copy of Naked Trader to learn the basics, fundamentals and terminology.

As above, your comments on Tesla are particularly worrying.
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Well said. I hope they take notice of this before it's too late.
 
Skeptic said:
My thesis on CAML is that it is a cyclical business, tied closely to infrastructure projects and copper price. It also has a healthy dividend. It has been as high as 250p per share, and if anything the business is in better shape today (less debt, better production capabilities etc).

Unfortunate that global infrastructure projects are on hold, but I can legitimately say I've never lost a minutes sleep over this co. But of course, all shares can surprise us!
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What are your thoughts on Anglo American vs CAML? Both in same sector... Do you hold both?
 
Iv been watching Spotify recently. Was intending to wait for next quaters results to see how lockdown has affected them. Buy WOW look at the week they have had.

As usual, now I feel like iv missed the boat!
 
Fusion said:
The saying about counting chickens comes to mind. There’s a possibility it will rise, but it isn’t “set” to make you that much. There are no sure bets.
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You have heard of Tesla right? lol

I've spent years researching Tesla, I'm very confident they will become the biggest and most profitable company in the world. They have the best EV's and the best batteries in the world and no competition. The competition isn't even close.

From my limited experience there's two types of people in Tesla stocks, those that short it and don't believe Tesla is going anywhere, and those of us that believe in Tesla and know Tesla has already won. With 3 years worth of back orders Tesla is doing amazing.

Russinating said:
Your post scares me. I don't want to sound offensive but it has all the hallmarks of impending doom. You should certainly know what an ISA allowance is and what the CGT rate is before piling thousands of pounds into the stockmarket. And 20 stocks at that.

I would stop what you're doing, potentially even sell everything, and pick up a copy of Naked Trader to learn the basics, fundamentals and terminology.

As above, your comments on Tesla are particularly worrying.
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That's a bit extreme. I have read up on investing listening to others and taken advice. They say don't invest more then you can afford to lose and that's exactly what I've done. I've only invested what I can afford to lose. If I lost everything tomorrow it wouldn't be the end of the world.

I enjoy investing, I am happy to invest for the future, and so far I've made over £700 in profit in just 4 months. I'm long on Tesla and my other stocks because I've listened to analyst like Ark Investment in America and read their report on where Tesla is predicted to go throughout the next decade.

Ark investment has Tesla going $1500, then $7000, $22,000 and then $30,000.

Tesla is already over $1000 and I believe we will hit $1500 very soon. I believe Tesla is a 10-20x stock long term, based on everything I see. They have hit many milestones already. When Elon says he is going to do something, he does it. Like sending two rockets into space in one week. Like landing 6 rockets on floating platforms. And like dropping off goods at the ISS. Like the 1 million mile battery etc etc. All I see is positive news around Tesla.

And for me personally. Even if I only made 5k on Tesla I'd be happy. Buy if I make 10k, 20k, 60k. That's just a bonus.

I'll post back here in 10 years anyways, I'll let you guys know how I did lol.

EDIT: Also I'm investing in Tesla as now a car manufacturer, even though that would be enough on it's own, imo.

But I'm investing in Tesla as a Software company, an EV company, an energy company, space rocket company, etc etc. I don't see it as just one type of business. Just like Amazon or google aren't just one type of business.

So if you believe in all those over sectors of Tesla's business doing well, you have to assume their stock is going to skyrocket over the next decade and beyond.
 
SkScotchegg said:
I've spent years researching Tesla, I'm very confident they will become the biggest and most profitable company in the world.
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I'm a Tesla fan and an even bigger Musk fan, but that is a BIG statement to make! They're definitely not a typical company, and have a large potential upside, but I do think you have to be careful with predictions. I hope you do well, though.
 
SkScotchegg said:
You have heard of Tesla right? lol

I've spent years researching Tesla, I'm very confident they will become the biggest and most profitable company in the world. They have the best EV's and the best batteries in the world and no competition. The competition isn't even close.

From my limited experience there's two types of people in Tesla stocks, those that short it and don't believe Tesla is going anywhere, and those of us that believe in Tesla and know Tesla has already won. With 3 years worth of back orders Tesla is doing amazing.



That's a bit extreme. I have read up on investing listening to others and taken advice. They say don't invest more then you can afford to lose and that's exactly what I've done. I've only invested what I can afford to lose. If I lost everything tomorrow it wouldn't be the end of the world.

I enjoy investing, I am happy to invest for the future, and so far I've made over £700 in profit in just 4 months. I'm long on Tesla and my other stocks because I've listened to analyst like Ark Investment in America and read their report on where Tesla is predicted to go throughout the next decade.

Ark investment has Tesla going $1500, then $7000, $22,000 and then $30,000.

Tesla is already over $1000 and I believe we will hit $1500 very soon. I believe Tesla is a 10-20x stock long term, based on everything I see. They have hit many milestones already. When Elon says he is going to do something, he does it. Like sending two rockets into space in one week. Like landing 6 rockets on floating platforms. And like dropping off goods at the ISS. Like the 1 million mile battery etc etc. All I see is positive news around Tesla.

And for me personally. Even if I only made 5k on Tesla I'd be happy. Buy if I make 10k, 20k, 60k. That's just a bonus.

I'll post back here in 10 years anyways, I'll let you guys know how I did lol.

EDIT: Also I'm investing in Tesla as now a car manufacturer, even though that would be enough on it's own, imo.

But I'm investing in Tesla as a Software company, an EV company, an energy company, space rocket company, etc etc. I don't see it as just one type of business. Just like Amazon or google aren't just one type of business.

So if you believe in all those over sectors of Tesla's business doing well, you have to assume their stock is going to skyrocket over the next decade and beyond.
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You have made £0 the past 4 months.
 
Fusion said:
I'm a Tesla fan and an even bigger Musk fan, but that is a BIG statement to make! They're definitely not a typical company, and have a large potential upside, but I do think you have to be careful with predictions. I hope you do well, though.
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Thanks mate.

Yeah I just love this company so much. And Elon Musk. I guess I must be what people call a Tesla fan boy! haha. I'm happy to have that title as long as I'm green and the stock keeps going up!

I just honestly can't see Tesla failing. I'm even planning on buying a Tesla myself once my lease is finished in Feb. Originally I wanted the Model Y to replace my X1 but now I've fallen in love with the Cybertruck so I'm torn between them two. But then again I don't think the Cybertruck will be available where I live in time so maybe that will make the decision for me.

Obviously in a way the stock market is gamble, you do all your research and you put your money in great companies which you believe in. But as long as Tesla keeps going the way they're going and hitting all their milestones I can't honestly see how they can fail.
 
Minusorange said:
If you'd done your research you'd know that SpaceX is a separate entity to Tesla and I don't see the 2 ever merging, there's a very specific reason that SpaceX only hires US Nationals and it's to do with government contracts and national security and that isn't likely to change
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I know that SpaceX is seperate. Everyone know's that. Why do you guys, on this forum, talk like this? What's with the hostility? I don't know if it's arrogance or what but some of you talk like...I don't know, just weird.

The point is, when looking at Tesla, for investors to be confident they look at the company, they look at the CEO they look at everything they're doing and because Elon has done amazing things with Tesla and SpaceX and he has the NASA contract for SpaceX to supply cargo & people to the ISS this proves that Elon reaches his targets and his goals. It proves that he's reliable and you therefore have more faith in the company. Also Tesla does use some of the same engineers that SpaceX uses and some of the same technologies move across from SpaceX to Tesla. Like now he's using the same thruster technology from the rockets in the new Roadster. This has been talked about else where, I think I read that on reddit.

So once again, this proves that Elon, the CEO of Tesla is reliable and he is accomplishing things other Car manufactures aren't. Where is Ford's space rockets? Where is GM's space rockets? Where is GM's EV that can do over 600 miles or 0-6 in under 2 seconds? They don't exist, and probably won't for a very long time.

You have to appreciate what Elon, his company and his team of engineers has accomplished.

Don't forget all other car manufacturer start ups in last 20 years in the US all failed and went bankrupt. And now Tesla has come along and wiped the floor with the competition.
 
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I think tesla will be massive. I mean batteries are everything. If you hold the rights to a fundamentally new battery tech..
 
413x said:
I think tesla will be massive. I mean batteries are everything. If you hold the rights to a fundamentally new battery tech..
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There's a video on YouTube where they explain why Tesla does so amazing with their batteries. They interview these two scientist who have broken down the car and tore it all apart. They have analysed everything. And they said Tesla make their own boards, their own chips, their own software so their management of energy is far superior to any other company.

Which is why when other companies have tried to produce the same mileage with the same battery tech they have failed. And Tesla does all this themselves, in house. It was a very interesting video.
 
BTW, does anyone know when Robinhood is finally going to land in the UK? I know they said 2020 but just wondered on an update.

I thing Trading 212 is great, it's easy to use and makes things simple, especially for beginner retail investors like myself but there's some companies missing off there which I expect will be listed on Robinhood.
 
Minusorange said:
What has any of that got to do with Tesla being a space rocket company ?

You said Tesla were going to be a space rocket company, I merely stated why they won't be, I don't know why you think it's a hostile statement unless you think everyone who proves you wrong is hostile :confused:
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When they sent two rockets to space, The Tesla stock reacted and went up. I do believe each will work together like that going forward. It's still faith in Elon and faith in Tesla/SpaceX. Maybe it's different perspectives but that's how I look at it.

I believe if you invest in Tesla your investing in all of Elon's projects.

I wish SpaceX came public but I understand his decision not to. But he did say Starlink will go public very soon so I'm hoping this year. And I'll definitely be jumping on that when it IPO's.
 
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