Want to build a 22' x 16' "Shed" - online plans and specs available?

[doopydug]

Planning to build one of these at the back of my shop to act as a small store for low value goods.

Got a guy who has suggested laying down paving slabs then sleepers to sit it on. Are there any generic plans available that I can work from to tell me what I will need to buy and how to build it?

Just planning to go to a builders merchant and erect it from scratch. Handy with the hands but planning it out is not my forte.

Its just a giant shed but I think that I will be insulating it with kingspan panels and running electricity to it - just need to know what thickness of wood and how much to buy and whats the best form of construction etc

 

[hyperseven]

Don't you need planning permission for something that size?

 

[doopydug]

Don't you need planning permission for something that size?

Its not a permanent structure so i dont think so?

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Its not a permanent structure so i dont think so?

Yes you do depending on its height. How close it is to a boundary and the size of it relative to the amount of free land.

You will need a completely flat base. There are several ways to do that from ground screws, pouring concrete, decking, paving, etc.

Then I'd suggest buying a kit from tuin. If you are going to get insulation and electricity running to it then I'd go for a proper log cabin over a shed.

The kits from tuin can be built from scratch by one person in a day. And then finished on the second day.

With 2 or 3 people you could do the full thing in a few hours.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Ive got a tuin cabin and your a little optimistic there in timings unless used to doing them

Although basically it depends. The guides aren't great so when (if) you come to something like the door if its assembled when sent great, if like mine as its a double door its not then you have a lot of bits and a pretty poor picture to work from.
Took me an hour to work it all out and I am good at those sort of thing.

I spent 1 day building the cabin basics, and probably 2-3 days (although spread into smaller chunks) doign everything else like the floor. I bought the 32mm T&G floor as we are using it as a gym, and thats not made to measure, its just enough planks to do it, so every one needs cutting, that took a long time as well.

However in general sentiment there is a massive difference between a cabin and a shed. The cabin is all interlocked and far more a single entity than a typical shed which is just nailed together.
I would say I would always go to a cabin as opposed to a shed now if I was spending any time in it.
This year I insulated the roof with just 25mm of PIR (had already insulated teh floor with cheap insulation when building), and its amazing how its cool to the touch when the sun is blazing on the top. Very hard to do similar with a shed as they just move too much generally. Its a lovely place to be in, we often find ourselves in it when its raining the sound is lovely.

 

[Gredawarha]

Its not a permanent structure so i dont think so?

Based on your opening post I would doubt very much that you would convince any planning enforcement officer (like me) who might come knocking on your door. Section 55 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 defines development, and what you describe sound very much like development.

Case law provides decision makers with three tests to be used when considering whether an outbuilding is or is not development, those tests are size, permanence and attachment to the ground. With the caveat that I haven’t seen your suggested building the size dimensions that you give suggest that on size and attachment (it’s very size and weight will give a significant degree of attachment even if not bolted or cemented to the ground) it will be development and based on your description I don’t you are only erecting it for a few days or weeks.

Therefore it is almost certainly development and will need permission.

Class E, Part 1, Schedule 2 of The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (England) Order 2015 provides permission for home owner to erect outbuilding within the curtilage of their dwelling subject to the conditions and limitations imposed by the permission.

If you build your outbuilding in compliance with Class E your building will benefit from permission, if not you will need express permission from your Local Authority.

You will probably need Building Regulations approval as well if you are insulating and running power to it but I am a planner not a building control officer so not my expertise.

 

[doopydug]

So if i just put as shipping container there instead - would that require permission?

 

[Psycho Sonny]

So if i just put as shipping container there instead - would that require permission?

a shipping container will rust unless sealed and leak. it also won't be thermally efficient or a nice place to be in.

you have wrote "Its just a giant shed but I think that I will be insulating it with kingspan panels and running electricity to it"

why are you insulating it and running leccy to it just to use as a store?

why not build a proper extension to the building? or if you want cheap and secure then get a shipping container but it won't last forever.

 

[doopydug]

a shipping container will rust unless sealed and leak. it also won't be thermally efficient or a nice place to be in.

you have wrote "Its just a giant shed but I think that I will be insulating it with kingspan panels and running electricity to it"

why are you insulating it and running leccy to it just to use as a store?

why not build a proper extension to the building? or if you want cheap and secure then get a shipping container but it won't last forever.

Its literally going to be used to run pallets of stock into and, once or twice per week, someone will have to stand there and sort through it for a couple of hours

 

[Gredawarha]

So if i just put as shipping container there instead - would that require permission?

Like most things in planning the answer is ‘depends’. The same principle applies, you assess the container against the three tests, size, permanence and attachment to the ground.

For example I have successfully enforced against a shipping container that was fairly large, was plumbed into fresh and foul water, electricity and the owner intended to retain it place for an indefinite period. If your intention was to build a large shed that would be on your land indefinitely and you think you can avoid the issue by simply replacing it with a container you might find yourself in difficulty.

That being said, containers are, excuse the language, a pain in the arse. It really would depend on the facts of the specific case.