What should I buy?

Tolley

Tolley

Tolley

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Hey guys, I'm looking to BUY a new PC entirely, from Overclockers. (Most likely, they are in my city, so would just be easier). My requirements: Max settings, 1080p 144fps. On the majority of games.

I've been looking at this PC: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...7-2700x-geforce-rtx-2070-super-fs-1dw-og.html

Is this too much, too little? I'll most likely only be playing in 1080p 144fps (on my new monitor), and Ultra 60FPS on my 4k monitor.
Games;
PUBG, Warzone, Apex etc etc are the games I'd want to be running in 144fps/max or as high as possible.

Sorry if this hurts your brain to read :) tl;dr - what rig do I need to buy to run 1080p max 144fps
 
This will run about the same for a chunk less :) Runs the newer Ryzen 3600 (one you linked is the older 2700X) and it's paired with a 5700 XT which trades blows in a lot of games against the 2070S.

You could even knock a further £110 off, if you remove Windows 10 from the config, then buy it yourself for £5 on that popular auction site ;)

The one below I've also configured with a 1TB SSD, instead of the 500GB model you linked.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Ballista - Gaming PC For Doom Eternal - AMD Ryzen 5+, AMD Radeon RX = £1,124.96
    • Case:Kolink Void RGB Midi Tower Case - Black Window
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - MPK
    • Primary Solid State Drive:TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Graphics Card:Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • WIFI:Unwanted
Total: £1,124.96 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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2700X is outdated architecture CPU for that low resolution and high refresh rate.
And motherboard has also crap CPU VRM (power circuitry) and is questionable for hungry 2700X.
Asus and Gigabyte B450 boards are pretty much scams and not really fit for 100W TDP CPUs.
Also PSU is even more crappier branded Chinese cheapo.

Good motherboard would take any CPU without running hot and also give upgradability.
And if you're not going to upgrade CPU, then you shouldn't take already outdated generation model.
Unlike Intel just rebranding same old and bringing marginal improvement, AMD is doing proper generational improvements.

Again good PSU would be good for even 10 years.
While that brand overpriced Nvidia for which you would be paying extra per performance is slower than next-gen consoles coming in late fall/before Christmas.
In fact that would be basically weaker then next Xbox both in CPU and GPU.
 
Sparx said:
This will run about the same for a chunk less :) Runs the newer Ryzen 3600 (one you linked is the older 2700X) and it's paired with a 5700 XT which trades blows in a lot of games against the 2070S.

You could even knock a further £110 off, if you remove Windows 10 from the config, then buy it yourself for £5 on that popular auction site ;)

The one below I've also configured with a 1TB SSD, instead of the 500GB model you linked.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Ballista - Gaming PC For Doom Eternal - AMD Ryzen 5+, AMD Radeon RX = £1,124.96
    • Case:Kolink Void RGB Midi Tower Case - Black Window
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - MPK
    • Primary Solid State Drive:TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Graphics Card:Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • WIFI:Unwanted
Total: £1,124.96 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Awesome! Would this be enough to run in 1080p 144? That was part of my initial question, I’m pretty useless with that kind of thing! :) if so I’ll definitely be prepared to buy this! Would the 2070S last longer do you think, or both GPUs just as good in the long run? Not looking to upgrade for like another 5 years lol.
 
EsaT said:
2700X is outdated architecture CPU for that low resolution and high refresh rate.
And motherboard has also crap CPU VRM (power circuitry) and is questionable for hungry 2700X.
Asus and Gigabyte B450 boards are pretty much scams and not really fit for 100W TDP CPUs.
Also PSU is even more crappier branded Chinese cheapo.

Good motherboard would take any CPU without running hot and also give upgradability.
And if you're not going to upgrade CPU, then you shouldn't take already outdated generation model.
Unlike Intel just rebranding same old and bringing marginal improvement, AMD is doing proper generational improvements.

Again good PSU would be good for even 10 years.
While that brand overpriced Nvidia for which you would be paying extra per performance is slower than next-gen consoles coming in late fall/before Christmas.
In fact that would be basically weaker then next Xbox both in CPU and GPU.
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lol yeah that’s why I came here to ask, this is just one of the prebuilt selections on OC Site. :) post above you seemed to offer some good options though!
 
2070S and 5700 XT are very similar, some games the 2070S edges it, others the 5700 XT edges it. But the AMD card is £100 cheaper.

Some people prefer Nvidia for the ‘less troubled’ drivers. I mean I have a 2070S myself and it’s a great card, but AMD’s 5700 XT equals it in performance the majority of the time or bests it in some games.
 
Sparx said:
2070S and 5700 XT are very similar, some games the 2070S edges it, others the 5700 XT edges it. But the AMD card is £100 cheaper.

Some people prefer Nvidia for the ‘less troubled’ drivers. I mean I have a 2070S myself and it’s a great card, but AMD’s 5700 XT equals it in performance the majority of the time or bests it in some games.
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Does your card run games in those specs though? That’s the main question, I wouldn’t wanna pay less and not be able to run in 1080xhigh/max at 144. If I have to spend more I’m willing haha. Rather do it right the first time!
 
Huh? I’m saying they both are very similar in performance :p They beat each other in certain games. Here’s a video to explain what I mean to skim through..

If you still want the 2070S then go for it, just a £100 premium for a small difference if you compare those benchmarks.

Personally I do prefer Nvidia’s drivers and control panel over AMD’s. But from what I’ve gathered AMD have improved somewhat recently on that front. I used a 5700 XT in a friends build earlier this year and it’s been a dream for him so.

 
Yeah I’ve been looking up on it now, seems to have a lot of driver issues though - unless those have been resolved. I’m not sure! My thoughts are to simply run the quality high, while lowering other settings to boost my fps. High textures would just be nice visually, then lower whatever else needs lowering to raise me up over 100-144.
I watched a video of a guy running it with a 3600x in Warzone, and he was getting well above 100 even on all high. So I’d be happy with that really, so I threw a 3600x on the build for like £30 more. I just don’t want it to under perform my expectations and then end up having to upgrade again, or taking it back. Warzone seems like a pretty hefty game to run, so if I can run that well above 100 then I’m sure the other games I play won’t be an issue. :) I’m just always scared to purchase just incase it doesn’t work or anything like that lmao.

edit; think it’d be worthwhile to throw a 3700X on it? Considering I was ready to spend the 1350 odd on the other one anyway. Shame there is no RAM upgrade options either
 
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Tolley said:
So I’d be happy with that really, so I threw a 3600x on the build for like £30 more.
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Real difference between 3600 and 3600X is marginal.
Especially when stock cooler is still such mediocre.
If wanting to allow CPU to achieve good boost clocks and maintain them long you need aftermarket cooler. (especialyl if caring about noise)
And 3600 and such cooler is cheaper than 3600X alone.
Something like this would alreayd help3600 perform.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/jonsbo-cr-1400-92mm-argb-cpu-cooler-black-hs-004-jb.html
And this would be easily enough for 8 core.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-co-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-079-ar.html

Choise is really between 3600 and 3700X, which brings 2 extra cores for next-gen games.
(next-gen consoles come with non-boosting variant of 3700X)
 
You know that you can do a custom build, and OCUK will build it for you? Much better option. :)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,343.19 (includes shipping: £12.30)



Just selected the same case as the pre-built, but put in a 2080S to show you the premium you pay for a pre-build with Windows 10 installed.​
 
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Journey said:
You know that you can do a custom build, and OCUK will build it for you? Much better option. :)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,343.19 (includes shipping: £12.30)



Just selected the same case as the pre-built, but put in a 2080S to show you the premium you pay for a pre-build with Windows 10 installed.​
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Is there an option at the checkout for them to build it for you? I wouldn’t trust myself, I got big clunky hands and always break things haha. But those options seem good. Maybe I’ll just wait a little longer, or finance an extra couple hundred since with a deposit of like 1k since I won’t be paying much back monthly.
 
Didn't realise I could put parts together and then ask them for a quote to build - this is what I ended up with. Good choices or anything you'd change? :)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,097.18 (includes shipping: £12.30)​
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https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...d3,U@bHqg3$U#bHsr3+XWbHss3+Y;bKDM3!8XbMFP3.@+
 
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Seems like a nicely balanced build. I chose a stupid over the top 2080S, since the current prices that OCUK have for both the 5700 XT and 2070S cards are just silly to be honest. These are cards that are normally £330-380, and £440-500 respectively, and £430 for the 5700 XT is just bonkers. It's the difference between getting your RAM for 30% of the list price or not, to put it into some context of the lost value. Maybe not a big deal to you, but I would see what they can do for you when you call them/e-mail them with the build cost.
 
Journey said:
Seems like a nicely balanced build. I chose a stupid over the top 2080S, since the current prices that OCUK have for both the 5700 XT and 2070S cards are just silly to be honest. These are cards that are normally £330-380, and £440-500 respectively, and £430 for the 5700 XT is just bonkers. It's the difference between getting your RAM for 30% of the list price or not, to put it into some context of the lost value. Maybe not a big deal to you, but I would see what they can do for you when you call them/e-mail them with the build cost.
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Hmm, I could wait for awhile or buy the card elsewhere and try my hand at putting it in myself.. but then I dunno. I like the fact that it'll all be set up, and all I'll have to do is install windows. I will consider your options though and might upgrade the GPU - I like that the cost is pretty low, it's pretty much what I paid for my 970 build like 5 years ago, but this gonna be considerably better. - back then I should've spent more and got a 1080ti. Plus I can always finance if I don't want to pay it all at once, and just drop a big deposit. I'm moving into a new place by the end of the month, so I mean I guess I'm not really in a rush since I'll be setting up Internet, and all my stuff anyway.
 
Tolley said:
I like the fact that it'll all be set up, and all I'll have to do is install windows.
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Hence why I said ask and see what they can do for you, after all I am sure they can be flexible, but you need to prompt them to win the business IMO.

Tolley said:
I'm moving into a new place by the end of the month, so I mean I guess I'm not really in a rush since I'll be setting up Internet, and all my stuff anyway.
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I'd wait then as prices seem to be getting better now, however I know that OCUK sometimes have lead times of 14 days+ on custom builds.
 
Journey said:
Hence why I said ask and see what they can do for you, after all I am sure they can be flexible, but you need to prompt them to win the business IMO.



I'd wait then as prices seem to be getting better now, however I know that OCUK sometimes have lead times of 14 days+ on custom builds.
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Yeah that's why I was looking now really, so if I did buy it'd probably be here for just as I move in, I'm not entirely desperate but for newer games my current rig just isn't cutting it anymore, without changing all the settings massively. Gets a tad annoying sometimes! So wanna make sure I'm set for like the next 5 years - doesn't seem like a bad time between builds, then upgrading/buying new.

Also what did you mean buy asking and seeing what they can do? Do they offer deals or cheaper/better things for same cost?
 
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