NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

tyler_jrb · 14 Jul 2020 at 12:08

Looking at the next gen specs I’m not expecting them to be cheap. I’d be surprised if they are cheaper than the current lineup.

I’ve sold and then been burned before waiting months for stock and waterblocks for a then not much faster more expensive card.

Hopefully the 11gb will still be of some value if say the 3070/3080 cards have less than 11gb.

Tempting to sell now but I’d rather have the power available until the 3080Ti purchase depending on the price and depending on the performance I may end up sticking with what I have anyway. If it drops A LOT of value and the 3080Ti ends up being £1500, I probably won’t even bother upgrading as it still performs rather well.

Jono8 · 14 Jul 2020 at 13:00

HACO said:
£610 to be exact.

Recently?

If so, who bought a used 2080 for that right now!!?

You've been able to get brand new 2080 supers for mid to high six hundreds over the last few months.

Jono8 · 14 Jul 2020 at 13:02

tyler_jrb said:
Looking at the next gen specs I’m not expecting them to be cheap. I’d be surprised if they are cheaper than the current lineup.

I’ve sold and then been burned before waiting months for stock and waterblocks for a then not much faster more expensive card.

Hopefully the 11gb will still be of some value if say the 3070/3080 cards have less than 11gb.

Tempting to sell now but I’d rather have the power available until the 3080Ti purchase depending on the price and depending on the performance I may end up sticking with what I have anyway. If it drops A LOT of value and the 3080Ti ends up being £1500, I probably won’t even bother upgrading as it still performs rather well.

Let's face it, prices will be inflated and gouged at release anyway.

melmac · 14 Jul 2020 at 13:04

DarrenM343 said:
Who else remembers the predictions that Turing would be short lived? . Two years at least then.Still gone fast!

Don't think you should be throwing stones about predictions. DLSS is going to be in a load of games before Christmas? 2080 is going to leave the 1080Ti in the dust? Ring any bells?

Remember all those advice threads when the 2080 launched? The 1080Ti's were under £600 at the time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but anyone who bought a 1080Ti at the time made the right choice.

* I was one of those who thought that Turing would be short lived. I was sure Nvidia would make the jump to 7nm quicker. Guess they knew before everyone else that AMD's Navi wouldn't compete at the high end.

melmac · 14 Jul 2020 at 13:07

Jono8 said:
Recently?

If so, who bought a used 2080 for that right now!!?

You've been able to get brand new 2080 supers for mid to high six hundreds over the last few months.

The second hand market has been crazy the last couple of years.

A couple of months after the 2070 Supers came out I was able to sell my 1080Ti for nearly the same price as a new Evga 2070 Super. Over on another forum I remember one guy at the end of 2019 been chuffed at been able to get a 1080TI for $600.

HACO · 14 Jul 2020 at 13:13

Jono8 said:
Recently?

If so, who bought a used 2080 for that right now!!?

You've been able to get brand new 2080 supers for mid to high six hundreds over the last few months.

Yeah, about 3 weeks ago. It was a normal 2080 as well (basic 3-fan Gigabyte). I put it up for sale for over a month though, eventually someone bought it.

Jono8 · 14 Jul 2020 at 13:13

HACO said:
Yeah, about 3 weeks ago. It was a normal 2080 as well (basic 3-fan Gigabyte). I put it up for sale for over a month though, eventually someone bought it.

Lol. Jokes on them!

OZONE · 14 Jul 2020 at 14:00

HACO said:
Yeah, having a backup is useful for some casual gaming in the meantime. I always do this. I buy at release, then sell when it seems like we're close to launch of the next generation. You can get really good prices. I don't miss a generation because then the values drop. I always sell when the GPUs are still latest generation.

I bought a Titan X for £825 (I think), sold it for £730 just 3 weeks before the 1080 was out.
Bought two 1080s for a combined £950, sold them for a combined £825 just a few weeks before 2080 came out.
Bought 2080 for £700, sold it for £610.

Got the Titan in April 2015. So since then I've spent a net £310 on GPUs. That's £62 per year or just about £5 a month. That's how I see things, I'm basically leasing the latest GPU for £5 a month.

That's pretty damn good.

I can't remember how much I purchased my RTX 2080 for but I think it was in the ballpark of £560. This was near launch - snagged it from someone who had an extra GPU he got for free.

I'd be happy to get anywhere near that price when sold.

Mensy · 14 Jul 2020 at 14:02

Heres me looking to sell my 1070 as they still go for £200 2nd hand but i have no gpu or intergrated to use till new cards are out

TT158 · 14 Jul 2020 at 14:32

tyler_jrb said:
Looking at the next gen specs I’m not expecting them to be cheap. I’d be surprised if they are cheaper than the current lineup.

I’ve sold and then been burned before waiting months for stock and waterblocks for a then not much faster more expensive card.

Hopefully the 11gb will still be of some value if say the 3070/3080 cards have less than 11gb.

Tempting to sell now but I’d rather have the power available until the 3080Ti purchase depending on the price and depending on the performance I may end up sticking with what I have anyway. If it drops A LOT of value and the 3080Ti ends up being £1500, I probably won’t even bother upgrading as it still performs rather well.

If the 3080 ti drops at £1.5k then I don't think the 2080 ti will tank right then (will drop a bit, of course).

I'm also considering selling, but the way I look at it: keep the 2080 ti and 3080 to blows it out of the water for reasonable money, I'm happy because the new card is awesome. Only beats it by a bit, I sell it for less loss, am still happy and lost less on sale of the old card.

Jay85 · 14 Jul 2020 at 14:40

TT158 said:
If the 3080 ti drops at £1.5k then I don't think the 2080 ti will tank right then (will drop a bit, of course).

I'm also considering selling, but the way I look at it: keep the 2080 ti and 3080 to blows it out of the water for reasonable money, I'm happy because the new card is awesome. Only beats it by a bit, I sell it for less loss, am still happy and lost less on sale of the old card.

They just might you know, or you're gonna have a lot of pi**ed turing card owners. Imagine paying £1200 for a 2080ti to see it tank to £600 if performance gains are to be believed with Ampere?

SirPsychoZe0 · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:09

Looks like the 2000 series is now at EOL, as would be expected:

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-enth...source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

Dirk Diggler · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:25

Jay85 said:
They just might you know, or you're gonna have a lot of pi**ed turing card owners. Imagine paying £1200 for a 2080ti to see it tank to £600 if performance gains are to be believed with Ampere?

The only generation that hasn't happened with is, funnily enough, Turing.

Why do so many people struggle with the concept that a generational upgrade will make the current top banana obsolete?

HACO · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:29

Dirk Diggler said:
The only generation that hasn't happened with is, funnily enough, Turing.

Why do so many people struggle with the concept that a generational upgrade will make the current top banana obsolete?

Because recently the generational upgrades also came with larger and larger price tags. Top of the line cards which used to be £450-500 are now £1200-1300. A lot of people don't remember the good old days when you'd have expected a 100% performance each generation at the same price range, which made the previous generation completely obsolete.

Dirk Diggler · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:34

HACO said:
Because recently the generational upgrades also came with larger and larger price tags. Top of the line cards which used to be £450-500 are now £1200-1300. A lot of people don't remember the good old days when you'd have expected a 100% performance each generation at the same price range, which made the previous generation completely obsolete.

Recently as in that one time with Turing? A lot of people must have incredibly short memories if they can't remember a x80ti for less than £1k

TNA · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:36

Why are people saying things like 3080Ti costing £1400 to £1500?

Every time a new gen GPU comes out people do this. So will the 4080Ti cost £1800 to £2000? The 5080Ti £2300 to £2500 etc? Makes no sense.

I am willing to be the 3080Ti will be the same price or less than a 2080Ti.

HACO · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:37

Dirk Diggler said:
Recently as in that one time with Turing? A lot of people must have incredibly short memories if they can't remember a x80ti for less than £1k

2080 Ti was more expensive than 1080 Ti.
1080 Ti was more expensive than 980 Ti.
980 Ti was more expensive than 780 Ti.

We've seen this three generations in a row now.

NZXT30 · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:38

I was planning to skip yet another generation (strokes my 1080ti) but DLSS 2.0 is making it really hard to resist. AMD need an answer to it asap if they want to compete.

HACO · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:39

TNA said:
Why are people saying things like 3080Ti costing £1400 to £1500?

Every time a new gen GPU comes out people do this. So will the 4080Ti cost £1800 to £2000? The 5080Ti £2300 to £2500 etc? Makes no sense.

I am willing to be the 3080Ti will be the same price or less than a 2080Ti.

I hope you're right, but people who expect the 3080 Ti to be more expensive than 2080 Ti are basing it on the fact that this happened every time in the last 3 generations. Maybe it will be the same price, but assuming it will be more expensive is completely justified.

NZXT30 · 14 Jul 2020 at 15:42

HACO said:
2080 Ti was more expensive than 1080 Ti.
1080 Ti was more expensive than 980 Ti.
980 Ti was more expensive than 780 Ti.

We've seen this three generations in a row now.

Not really my 1080ti (before the mining boom) cost me as much as my 88800gtx back in 2006. With the 2080ti high end price didn't just increase, it nearly doubled which is an abnormality.