NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

oggiet · 17 Jul 2020 at 16:57

Jacky60 said:
Well that's just 'great', the manufacturer should offer that NOT the retailer, TV's should last way longer than 5 years unless we want to fill every landfill on the planet with old TV's. That's 15 TV's per person in landfill across the developed World which isn't ideal given how rapidly countries are developing. Greta wouldn't approve! But thanks for the heads up

LOL !!!I understand what you mean. I updated to LG C9 OLED after having my Samsung for 11 years. I dont watch sport or play games on TV for longer than 10 hours a week but still got the cover just in case. My mrs is EHO, she makes sure we as a family do our bit for the planet

five8five · 17 Jul 2020 at 17:12

Seearbe said:
Without knowing what the performance of the new cards will be like and how much it's going to cost, I don't think anyone can say they won't buy a new PSU. £150 ish on a new PSU might seem very worthwhile in a few months. The biggest concern I would have is that everyone can get hold of a new GPU but there will be a massive shortage of PSUs!

We needn't worry as there will be special offers like for example -

Buy the Nvidia branded 750w PSU for only £1999.99 and claim a free* 3080Ti GPU (clown edition) *allow 90 days for delivery

HRL · 17 Jul 2020 at 17:19

Jacky60 said:
Well that's just 'great', the manufacturer should offer that NOT the retailer, TV's should last way longer than 5 years unless we want to fill every landfill on the planet with old TV's. That's 15 TV's per person per life in landfill across the developed World which isn't ideal given how rapidly countries are developing. Greta wouldn't approve! But thanks for the heads up

The manufacturer offers 5 years warranty on the hardware but screen burn is considered a misuse of the product, hence it’s not covered by their warranty.

I suspect the old plasma’s were exactly the same.

Got my 65” C9 last week and I’ve used it more for gaming than watching TV, although I’ve already watched about 25 hours of football on it too.

I paid the £140 protection for peace of mind as now I don’t care if I get screen burn or not. At least not for the next 5 years anyway!

Dirk Diggler · 17 Jul 2020 at 17:56

This new PSU nonsense is actually being reported by tech sites now?

https://www.techradar.com/amp/news/...require-upgraders-to-rip-out-most-of-their-pc

chaparral · 17 Jul 2020 at 18:14

oggiet said:
For all those that dont know John Lewis offer Burn in protection for £140 for 5 year cover.

For a Graphics card :confused:

What the hell do i want Burn in protection for a GPU for :confused:

Jacky60 · 17 Jul 2020 at 18:25

chaparral said:
For a Graphics card

What the hell do i want Burn in protection for a GPU for

It's for a toaster!

Jacky60 · 17 Jul 2020 at 18:26

five8five said:
We needn't worry as there will be special offers like for example -

Buy the Nvidia branded 750w PSU for only £1999.99 and claim a free* 3080Ti GPU (clown edition) *allow 90 days for delivery

Lol! Plus leather polish....

HRL said:
The manufacturer offers 5 years warranty on the hardware but screen burn is considered a misuse of the product, hence it’s not covered by their warranty.

I suspect the old plasma’s were exactly the same.

Got my 65” C9 last week and I’ve used it more for gaming than watching TV, although I’ve already watched about 25 hours of football on it too.

I paid the £140 protection for peace of mind as now I don’t care if I get screen burn or not. At least not for the next 5 years anyway!

Makes sense, I'm a little jelly..

Satchfanuk · 17 Jul 2020 at 18:41

Dirk Diggler said:
This new PSU nonsense is actually being reported by tech sites now?

https://www.techradar.com/amp/news/...require-upgraders-to-rip-out-most-of-their-pc

I don't understand why people are jumping to the conclusion that this new connector, assuming it's even true, means you need a new power supply and not just an adaptor cable which will be supplied with the GPU :rolleyes:

M1k3H · 17 Jul 2020 at 18:42

Jacky60 said:
I've over 6000 hours on one game, I think that qualifies as over and over and over ad nauseum but I'd still be furious if my TV/Monitor got burn in as a result. Many people have a go to game they spend way more time on than all the rest.

Yeah but is it 6000 hours of that game without any other content in between?

That is the crucial question you should be asking. If the answer is yes, then OLED isn't for you. For me, I do play games, but also watch TV, youtube, etc, so even If I spend a whole weekend playing the same game I know the risk is extremely low.

I had a plasma before this, which was used in a similar manner, but never got burn in due to this. [got light burn in from subtitles bars though]

oggiet · 17 Jul 2020 at 18:53

chaparral said:
For a Graphics card

What the hell do i want Burn in protection for a GPU for

Its for PSU

in case it catches fire!

Dirk Diggler · 17 Jul 2020 at 19:00

Satchfanuk said:
I don't understand why people are jumping to the conclusion that this new connector, assuming it's even true, means you need a new power supply and not just an adaptor cable which will be supplied with the GPU

Exactly, there's no way a non standard power connection requirement for the GPU would come without a conversion cable supplied.

Satchfanuk · 17 Jul 2020 at 19:48

chaparral said:
For a Graphics card

What the hell do i want Burn in protection for a GPU for

To protect against Fermi 2.0

opethdisciple · 17 Jul 2020 at 19:50

Unlikely but imagine Nvidia decided the 3000 series would be an entirely new tier above the 2080ti for ultra expensive ultra powerful cards only.

Power hungry, requires a 12 pin power connector and has a dedicated RT processor. Prices starting form £1500.

And keep the current 2000 series for people who need cheaper cards.

Satchfanuk · 17 Jul 2020 at 19:52

opethdisciple said:
Unlikely but imagine Nvidia decided the 3000 series would be an entirely new tier above the 2080ti for ultra expensive ultra powerful cards only.

Power hungry, requires a 12 pin power connector and has a dedicated RT processor. Prices starting form £1500.

And keep the current 2000 series for people who need cheaper cards.

The fact you even thought about this shows what Nvidia have become in the eyes of consumers

McGraw · 17 Jul 2020 at 20:33

opethdisciple said:
Unlikely but imagine Nvidia decided the 3000 series would be an entirely new tier above the 2080ti for ultra expensive ultra powerful cards only.

Power hungry, requires a 12 pin power connector and has a dedicated RT processor. Prices starting form £1500.

And keep the current 2000 series for people who need cheaper cards.

Assuming you mean keep the 20 series pricing as is, too?

I'd never buy a new Nvidia card again.

Phixsator · 17 Jul 2020 at 20:44

opethdisciple said:
Unlikely but imagine Nvidia decided the 3000 series would be an entirely new tier above the 2080ti for ultra expensive ultra powerful cards only.

Power hungry, requires a 12 pin power connector and has a dedicated RT processor. Prices starting form £1500.

And keep the current 2000 series for people who need cheaper cards.

AMD would have a field day with that. They won't even have to offer 3080ti performance, just beat the 2080 ti by a solid amount and price it at 800-900 and everyone will sing their praises. Highly doubt Nvidia's leadership is this stupid. They are many things but stupid is certainly not one of them imho.

Grim5 · 17 Jul 2020 at 20:55

McGraw said:
Assuming you mean keep the 20 series pricing as is, too?

I'd never buy a new Nvidia card again.

you can have my non new 2080ti in 2 months, I give you good deal 800 pounds

Jacky60 · 17 Jul 2020 at 20:58

M1k3H said:
Yeah but is it 6000 hours of that game without any other content in between?

That is the crucial question you should be asking. If the answer is yes, then OLED isn't for you. For me, I do play games, but also watch TV, youtube, etc, so even If I spend a whole weekend playing the same game I know the risk is extremely low.

I had a plasma before this, which was used in a similar manner, but never got burn in due to this. [got light burn in from subtitles bars though]

I get where you're coming from and IF I was using it for both I'd buy in but I'm waiting for now.

Greebo · 17 Jul 2020 at 21:04

smilertoo said:
Picture on qled is supposed to be almost oled like, with no burn in or colours wearing out after a few years.

Almost.............

QLED/LCD TVs, even the best ones with the most effective full-array local dimming, let some light through, leading to more washed-out, grayer black levels and blooming around bright sections. OLED have perfect blacks and better contrast. Only the very high end QLED Tvs have better picture than OLED TVs and the cheaper QLED TV's have a worse picture quality.

SO in order to get a better picture than OLED with your QLED then you are going to have to spend more.

Plus I have no idea if there are any 120Hz QLED TVs yet?

There is good reason Samsung is investing £11bn into their own version of OLED due out in 2021. They clearly see that as the future and superior to any of their QLED TVs they have out now.

varkanoid · 17 Jul 2020 at 21:54

opethdisciple said:
Unlikely but imagine Nvidia decided the 3000 series would be an entirely new tier above the 2080ti for ultra expensive ultra powerful cards only.

Power hungry, requires a 12 pin power connector and has a dedicated RT processor. Prices starting form £1500.

You mean 2 x 6 pin PCIE connectors we already have ? 2 x 6 = erm whats the answer ?
Making a 12 pin socket for a 12 pin adapter to plug into the same PCIE power is utterly stupid and waste of money and sounds like someone is taking the mick.

I know what you are stating is pie in the sky but to believe this rumour is just because there is no new news (and thats not aimed at you too.)