NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[LoadsaMoney]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-3090-will-allegedly-offer-a-massive-50-performance-increase/

 

[HACO]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-3090-will-allegedly-offer-a-massive-50-performance-increase/

If rumours are true that this 3090 is really a Titan replacement, we shall expect it to have huge vram (24GB or more) and be priced accordingly.

 

[Illuminist]

Verified but confidential sources over at Hardware Times indicate that NVIDIA will begin sampling cards in its GeForce RTX Ampere lineup as early as the end of August. This means that cards like the GeForce RTX 3080 and GeForce RTX 3080 Ti could be in the hands of OEMs within the next couple weeks.

This is good news for people looking to actually get their hands on an Ampere card as it suggests a hard launch in September, not a paper launch with limited or no availability. Leaked performance reports indicate that the Ampere GeForce RTX 3080 Ti will be as much as 40 percent faster than the reigning GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, meaning that 4K high frame rate gaming might become a reality.

 

[Poneros]

I'll still go with the 3090 = 3080 Ti assumption, but I imagine if the performance numbers are true we're more likely to see a 3080 Ti alongside the 3090 and then a bigger price disparity between them. Especially if the memory speed rumours are true, in which case you have room for more differentiation and segmentation. In that case I'd say it's not out of the question that the 3090 will then be >$1500 but we'll have the 3080 Ti around $1200ish and the 3080 will end up as a "value flagship" somewhere around $800, also because that's where Big Navi is expected to fight and therefore there'll be more of a price battle.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Verified but confidential sources over at Hardware Times indicate that NVIDIA will begin sampling cards in its GeForce RTX Ampere lineup as early as the end of August. This means that cards like the GeForce RTX 3080 and GeForce RTX 3080 Ti could be in the hands of OEMs within the next couple weeks.

This is good news for people looking to actually get their hands on an Ampere card as it suggests a hard launch in September, not a paper launch with limited or no availability. Leaked performance reports indicate that the Ampere GeForce RTX 3080 Ti will be as much as 40 percent faster than the reigning GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, meaning that 4K high frame rate gaming might become a reality.

You could've just linked to the article.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...PlayStation-5-and-Xbox-Series-X.483529.0.html

 

[Ur round next]

I just wish they would hurry up..Iv already spent £110 on a Pre order for Microsoft flight simulator 2020 premium Deluxe edition..No news officaly within the next month ill be going for a 2080Ti instead

 

[Quartz]

If rumours are true that this 3090 is really a Titan replacement,

Other rumours say it's supposed to be the replacement for the 3080 Ti.

but I imagine if the performance numbers are true we're more likely to see a 3080 Ti alongside the 3090 and then a bigger price disparity between them.

Remember that AMD has Big Navi coming. They won't want prospective purchasers waiting; they'll want to stomp.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

3090 if its real would be to protect the Titan brand and give Nvidia options

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

3090 if its real would be to protect the Titan brand and give Nvidia options

It might be Nvidia is trying to get as many models out of the GA102 especially if they have to launch with a large die first,and have limited supply. It could be quite possible they launch a Titan when the range is refreshed and they use TSMC instead of Samsung.

 

[Grim5]

It might be Nvidia is trying to get as many models out of the GA102 especially if they have to launch with a large die first,and have limited supply. It could be quite possible they launch a Titan when the range is refreshed and they use TSMC instead of Samsung.

The rumour is that for next's year's Super refresh of the RTX3000 line up, they will switch to TSMC 7nm. TSMC's 5nm is unlikely to be ready for large die sizes with good yields this time next year, so Nvidia will most definitely be launching an intermediate lineup in 12 months - which will either be called RTX4000 or RTX3000 Super, with the only difference to the upcoming RTX3000 cards being a drop down to 7nm, allowing for some extra cores and higher clocks to be pushed down the lineup from better yields.

AMD might try to make some 5nm GPU's this time next year, but they'll have to be under 300mm2, going by the time transitions we've seen in the last couple years through the 7nm evolution stack. Which is why Nvidia can't move to 5nm in 2021, because fundamentally they are the same cards and will probably be 500mm2+ at the high end. I can see both AMD and Nvidia launching their new big boy GPU's on 5nm in 2022.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The rumour is that for next's year's Super refresh of the RTX3000 line up, they will switch to TSMC 7nm. TSMC's 5nm is unlikely to be ready for large die sizes with good yields this time next year, so Nvidia will most definitely be launching an intermediate lineup in 12 months - which will either be called RTX4000 or RTX3000 Super, with the only difference to the upcoming RTX3000 cards being a drop down to 7nm, allowing for some extra cores and higher clocks to be pushed down the lineup from better yields.

AMD might try to make some 5nm GPU's this time next year, but they'll have to be under 300mm2, going by the time transitions we've seen in the last couple years through the 7nm evolution stack. Which is why Nvidia can't move to 5nm in 2021, because fundamentally they are the same cards and will probably be 500mm2+ at the high end. I can see both AMD and Nvidia launching their new big boy GPU's on 5nm in 2022.

I think this is going to be a tick-tock generation. So the uarch gets introduced on a "safe" node for both companies,and then they switch the designs to improved ones.

 

[Poneros]

Other rumours say it's supposed to be the replacement for the 3080 Ti.



Remember that AMD has Big Navi coming. They won't want prospective purchasers waiting; they'll want to stomp.

Want is mostly irrelevant. It's a matter of what they can do. Our only leak shows a 20% jump over the 2080 Ti, and even in a theoretical scenario with 512-bit bus & 80 CUs and really good scaling, it's still not ending up better than that. Unless AMD found some magic spells, I wouldn't really expect big navi to compete with a 3080 Ti/3090.

 

[varkanoid]

Still you you literally said you would buy the 3070 because "you know your system".

Okay so if I had £700 say and I could buy a Xbox X or a £700 3070 I would buy a 3070 because I know my PC and I hate consoles.

 

[banbom44]

O

If the game is crap you should know in less then 2 hours of play time and so can get a full refund on Steam. Which is far better then buying a crap game and then trying to trade it in for less money on a PS5/XBOX.

Bought ghost of Tsushima 45 pounds finished it was ok not my cup of tea sold it for 40 bought last of us 2 50 quid loved it completed it twice sold it for 36 quid you can't do that with PC games all im saying is PC gaming is a rip off Death stranding a year after the PS4 and coming out soon horizon Zero Dawn a 3 year old game lol.

 

[Twinz]

Want is mostly irrelevant. It's a matter of what they can do. Our only leak shows a 20% jump over the 2080 Ti, and even in a theoretical scenario with 512-bit bus & 80 CUs and really good scaling, it's still not ending up better than that. Unless AMD found some magic spells, I wouldn't really expect big navi to compete with a 3080 Ti/3090.

If Nvidia doesn't get back on track with a meaningful generational price/performance improvement, I can wait to see what AMD does with big Navi. (and I suspect I'm not alone on this mindset)

 

[g67575]

Here's some predictions based on the last gen:

The RTX 2080 TI (Turing) has 88.15% the transistor count of the Tesla V100S (Turing).

Assuming the RTX 3080 TI has 88.15% the transistor count of the Ampere (Tesla) GA100, it would have 47.7 million transistors.

Based on the above, I bet that the RTX 3080 TI will have approx. 88% the performance of the Ampere GA100.

Does anyone think this is way off? Send me a beer if I'm right

 

[kazuya1337]

Bought ghost of Tsushima 45 pounds finished it was ok not my cup of tea sold it for 40 bought last of us 2 50 quid loved it completed it twice sold it for 36 quid you can't do that with PC games all im saying is PC gaming is a rip off Death stranding a year after the PS4 and coming out soon horizon Zero Dawn a 3 year old game lol.

As I said previously Sony and Microsoft see the used game market as their biggest threat to profits and are doing all in their power to erase physical copies of games. Sony are making people pay extra for a Blueray drive for the PS5 and I really won't be surprised if the majority of physical PS5 games are empty boxes with one time use keys for the PSN.

 

[Poneros]

If Nvidia doesn't get back on track with a meaningful generational price/performance improvement, I can wait to see what AMD does with big Navi. (and I suspect I'm not alone on this mindset)

A lot of people said that about Turing. We'll have to see how that turns out once Ampere hits. I'm skeptical, mostly because Turing prices have remained high & product was mostly out of stock due to flying off the shelves.

 

[Twinz]

A lot of people said that about Turing. We'll have to see how that turns out once Ampere hits. I'm skeptical, mostly because Turing prices have remained high & product was mostly out of stock due to flying off the shelves.

Turing got none of my money.

 

[EastCoastHandle]

Let's say hypothetically that rdna 2.0 is not competitive at all. And it does not beat a a 3070. That leaves the door wide open for NVIDIA to charge what they want. Will you still pay for it even though they will charges more for ampere than with turing?

For example lets say you have to now pay 800+ for a 3070. Blamed AMD for not being competitive and call it a day.