Which Motherboard.

Joanne62

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Hi all i have picked 3 MB's my limit is £200-£260 which one.


GigabyteX570 AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard
Socket AM4, X570 Chipset,3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™, 4 x DDR4,2 x Dual Ultra-Fast NVMe PCIe 4.0,2 x 1 x PCI Express x16 slot Supporting PCIe 4.0,6 x SATA 6Gb/s,2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1


£209.99 £199.99


MSIMAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 ATX Motherboard
Socket AM4, X570 Chipset,Supports 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™, 4x DDR4, PCIe x16 4.0, 6x SATA 6Gb/s connectors, 2x USB 3.2 Gen1 connectors, 2x PCIE Gen4 M.2 Slot, WIFI 6, Bluetooth v5



AsusROG Strix X570-F Gaming (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard
Socket AM4, X570 Chipset,3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™, 4 x DDR4 supporting up to 128GB,PCIe Gen 4 support, Aura Sync, 8 x SATA 6Gb/s ports, 4 x USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports


£249.95




My setup :




Seagate 4TB Barracuda 5400RPM 256MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (ST4000DM004)
£92.99*




WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)
£109.99*



Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Dual EVO OC 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
£499.99*



AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Twelve Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
£458.99*



InLine Velcro Cable Ties 20x100mm 10 Pieces Black
£2.99*



OcUK Professional 2m Braided HDMI High Speed with Ethernet Cable (NL2HDMI-02)
£5.99*



Phanteks Revolt Pro 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Combo Supply
£124.99*



Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit
£229.99*



Phanteks Eclipse P400 Air Midi Tower DRGB Case - White
£83.99*


Goods total

Delivery costs

Total value excluding VAT

Total VAT at 20.00 %

Total order value

£1,609.91*

£13.20*

£1,352.59

£270.52

£1,623.11

I also need a CPU cooler my limit is £2000 and I'm at £1,623.11 help is needed it's getting me frustrated now.

Thanks.

 
Do the more expensive boards have any features that you need/want that the Gigabyte doesn't offer?

I'm running a 3900X in an X570 Elite and have no complaints.
 
Lol why'd why make a new thread, we already had another thread!

Anyways as I said earlier in the other thread, the tomahawk X570 within your budget of 200-240 would be a great pick.

If you are after WiFi even the cheaper boards have them but the x570 boards are meant for beefier oc features better vrms and so on.
 
The msi or the gigabyte elite both will be great boards go with which ever one you like the look of best as both will do the job there is a gigabyte x570 elite Wi-Fi board as well as the standard elite
 
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If you go by reviews then the Tomahawk is the best. Not sure i'd be willing to plough £200+ into x570 right now though unless you actually need everything it offers.
 
Tbh I dont think you need to spend that much on a motherboard. I understand you set aside £200-£260 to spend but why spend it just for the sake of it when boards listed below will perform exactly the same.

Can you name any additional features that you need that are not provided on these boards?.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £511.07 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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I'd be interested in seeing a really detailed comparison of the B550 and X570 boards, interested in things like VRMs and audio quality rather than the differences between the chipsets.
 
clv101 said:
I'd be interested in seeing a really detailed comparison of the B550 and X570 boards, interested in things like VRMs and audio quality rather than the differences between the chipsets.
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Audio basically is bad on any board still.
external card is the way to go.
still use my asus essence stx 10 years going.
My sound card still beats any board sound manufactured.

vrm on msi b550/x570 boards are solid now.

 
Disappointing about the audio, looking at MSI's webpage about the x570 Tomahawk, there's impressive sounding marketing about the quality of its audio.

What's the cheapest discreet audiosaudio that's significantly better?
 
RBImGuy said:
Audio basically is bad on any board still.
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I don't agree with you here. Over the last decade there have been considerable improvements on the audio side and most of the current boards are equal or better than most of the sound cards (since most of the sound cards are still based on technology from 5-10 years ago).

RBImGuy said:
My sound card still beats any board sound manufactured.
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That's because you have bought a sound card which was more expensive than most motherboards at the time. It comprises of high grade converters and op amps which are still used in many high end audio devices even today. That side of the tech hasn't moved on that much, my STX II (yes I'm an audio snob too) has the same Burr Brown op amps that I was using twenty years ago in Uni. The difference is that you can't physically fit these high grade circuits on a motherboard so the motherboard manufacturers have been forced to drive improvements, whereas the soundcard manufacturers have not.

I would not personally recommend a sound card to anybody these days. IMO there are two choices, stick to the onboard (perfectly fine for 95% of users) or get a good external DAC and remove the analogue signal completely from the (EM) noisy environment inside the case.
 
clv101 said:
What's the cheapest discreet audiosaudio that's significantly better?
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Don't bother.

You have to spend £100+ to get any improvement over onboard sound and even then it's debatable whether you could perceive any difference (unless you've also got audiophile headphones). There's little to no difference between the tech onboard and the tech on a £20-50 card.
 
ScottiB said:
I don't agree with you here. Over the last decade there have been considerable improvements on the audio side and most of the current boards are equal or better than most of the sound cards (since most of the sound cards are still based on technology from 5-10 years ago).

That's because you have bought a sound card which was more expensive than most motherboards at the time. It comprises of high grade converters and op amps which are still used in many high end audio devices even today. That side of the tech hasn't moved on that much, my STX II (yes I'm an audio snob too) has the same Burr Brown op amps that I was using twenty years ago in Uni. The difference is that you can't physically fit these high grade circuits on a motherboard so the motherboard manufacturers have been forced to drive improvements, whereas the soundcard manufacturers have not.

I would not personally recommend a sound card to anybody these days. IMO there are two choices, stick to the onboard (perfectly fine for 95% of users) or get a good external DAC and remove the analogue signal completely from the (EM) noisy environment inside the case.
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well we dont know if the user is one of the 95% or the 5%.
so, options as mine or yours might be the way to go for some.
I also been able to use this card for 10 years now and still going.
so while it was expensive at the time, its still translate well to this day.
and my sennheiser hd600 still runs clear which I bought second hand for a great price.

as a sidenote, played some flac for sister once and she almost didn't want to go home.

side note two, people are able to tell the difference

 
RBImGuy said:
my sennheiser hd600 still runs clear which I bought second hand for a great price.
as a sidenote, played some flac for sister once and she almost didn't want to go home.

side note two, people are able to tell the difference
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I think you proved my point for me, at today's prices, you are talking about a £300 headphone plugged into a £200 sound card and the DAC linked is, again, well north of £200. I have a similar set up to you and, similar to your story, when I put my headphones on the missus' head she threw her Steelseries in the bin...but that was more about the headphones than the driver.

However, as I said before, you bought well because there haven't been many improvements on that side of the audio fence for the last twenty years at least. In the meantime the small scale, digital revolution has been catching up. The better onboard sound set ups these days have high signal to noise, can handle uncompressed, high bit rate audio and can drive high quality, high impedance headphones.
 
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Yeah no same - I don't recommend sound cards to people nowadays when they are asking for a build unless they are serious about audio and in which case they already have a good dac or audio solution. Plus the sound card will be better than any onboard because that's what its meant to do - why would you spend more money and buy worse audio than what you have built in. The thing is, most people looking to get into pc gaming and building don't care about audio or can't tell the difference either.
 
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