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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

danlightbulb said:
Just spent some time compiling this chart, and its actually changed my view of things.

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It looks to me like the only outlying card really, was the 2080 Ti. The rest of the cards actually form a consistent and fairly reasonable price to performance pattern and the improvements between series (especially for Nvidia) are clearly visible.

Firstly the Nvidia Pascal series is very linear in pricing, and actually if you project that green line forward you get exactly to where the 2080 Ti is in terms of pricing and performance.

Then Turing (the dark green line) is again reasonably linear with the exception of the 2080 Ti. The remaining cards follow a similar profile to Pascal except shifted to the right. This means they have delivered an increase in performance at broadly the same price points.

Taking a look at AMD, their RDNA1 series could effectively be an extension of the Turing series line at the lower end.

The Vega and Radeon VII cards in the AMD GCN series are clearly sitting between Pascal and Turing both in price and performance, so it looks to be spot on in terms of placement, representing an improvement over Pascal but not getting to the level of Turing.

And the weaker GCN RX cards are also sitting, comparatively speaking, in what looks to be the right place in terms of their price and performance.


* I did my best to find the dollar release prices of all the cards but there was some variability in the data sources so they might be slightly off.
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I'd assume it looks much less reasonable of you used the 2070 and 2080 rather than the super. 2080 released same price as the 1080ti for the same power as a 1080ti.
 
Well according to the release prices I found, it actually looks spot on. 1st release Turing shown in mid green:

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Remember these prices are in dollars, so not impacted by exchange rate swings dollar to pound over the time frame.

Happy to make changes if people have more accurate release prices.
 
Doobedoo said:
Can we now have pound prices please :).
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If you list 'em, I'll chart 'em.

The pound prices are hard to find.

Im not sure they are relevant really. If we're trying to understand the relative positioning of performance between generations and between cards within a generation, then we need a consistent price base.
 
The 2080ti should be part of Turing 1st not Turing 2nd.
Out of curiosity how come you've used passmark to quantify performance?

Edit: does it make more sense for cost to be on the x axis?
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Out of curiosity how come you've used passmark to quantify performance?

Edit: does it make more sense for cost to be on the x axis?
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Because passmark is an easily available absolute score number. Other data seems to express in terms of % from a baseline card. I felt showing an absolute scale was better.

I tried the axis the other way around and felt this way around was better to visualise the way that cost increases as performance increases. I.e cost being the dependant variable here and the one we wanted to examine.


ljt said:
The 1080Ti was $700 dan, not $800 like on your chart
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As I said, I did find mixed information. Passmark has the release price for the 1080Ti as $800? Happy to make the change, but all cards probably need looking at.


BigBANGtheory said:
2080 was $620 and a 2080S $600 that doesn’t seem right are these without sales tax?
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Ive just gone off what passmark says the prices were for consistency. If you have better data source then Im happy to update.
 
danlightbulb said:
If you list 'em, I'll chart 'em.

The pound prices are hard to find.

Im not sure they are relevant really. If we're trying to understand the relative positioning of performance between generations and between cards within a generation, then we need a consistent price base.
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Maybe someone from Ocuk can supply some numbers.

I only say prices in pound because that’s what we are paying for them.
 
Doobedoo said:
I only say prices in pound because that’s what we are paying for them.
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Yeah I understand, its just that the UK pricing introduces other variables, not least exchange rate and retailer gouging. Whether we get a raw deal in the UK pricing is a different question.


XeNoNF50 said:
Yeah those prices aren't right.

These look right (the the founders edition ones no one sold at rrp)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_20_series
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Ok will update, after Ive had some food.
 
I can help with the dollar prices of the 10 and 20 series. The prices are for the FE cards to keep consitency. Your probably better using timespy scores as an easier better gauge of performance

10 series;

1060 6gb - $299 Timespy - 4114
1070 - $449 Timespy - 5699
1080 - $599 Timespy - 6986
1080ti -$699 Timespy - 9521

20 series 1st release

2060 - $349 Timespy - 7397
2070 - $599 Timespy - 8405
2080 - $799 Timespy - 11002
2080Ti - $1199 Timespy - 13610
 
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ljt said:
I can help with the dollar prices of the 10 and 20 series. The prices are for the FE cards to keep consitency. Your probably better using timespy scores as an easier better gauge of performance

10 series;

1060 6gb - $299
1070 - $449
1080 - $599
1080ti -$699

20 series 1st release

2060 - $349
2070 - $599
2080 - $799
2080Ti - $1199
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So a 2080Ti was DOUBLE the price the 1080Ti was at launch. That. is. nuts.
 
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