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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

chaparral said:
I wouldn't say that as it looks amazing compared to any other flight sims.it really is a next gen flight sim
Even before it was released just looking at the youtube video's of the sim and i knew there was no way that sim was going be hitting 60fps at max settings

Even some the pictures in this new FS 2020 screenshot & video thread is unreal
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...sfs-2020-enthusiasts-flight-simmers.18896221/
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Is not that the game doesn't look good (although is not that great once you get to close to the ground), is the performance limited by DX11. Add some render to texture where you have plenty of in cockpit displays and it drops even further.
 
In relation to the pricing of the RTX 3090, it is important to remember what the naming convention communicates to the market, being: XX90 > XX80 Ti. For this reason alone Nvidia will justify an increase in price over the 2080 Ti.

Hell, the fact that most non-blower 2080 Ti's had been selling for £1,200+ for the last two years means the original £1k base price of the 2080 Ti only exists in the memories of the people on this forum. Joe Blogs knows nothing other than paying £1,200+ for the top-tier card. With AMD having no response to the 3090 as rumours suggest, Nvidia have to do nothing to justify their new price tag. It's unfortunate but true.
 
bit off topic but i was expecting a lot of cards to go up for sale in the members market anticipating the release of the 3000 series however im not seeing it.. are people holding back?
 
danlightbulb said:
It is very likely a 3080 will be an excellent 1440p card for years to come. I think this term being banded about 'gimped' seriously needs reigning in because it is really an exageration.
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If it has 10GB. Of course it is gimped. 4 year old 1080Ti had more. 2020/2021 top tier cards should not be shipping with a severely lifespan limiting 10GB. MSFS already uses more.
 
Jensen is going to go SO hard on RT. Bet there are no rasterisation graphs. Even though thats what 99% of us what.
I mean do you want more Frames in Quake 2. Or more frames in games you actually play like COD and Tarkov?
 
ALXAndy said:
It doesn't look good to me. I don't play Minecraft. Youngblood was pathetic and annoying and Control needed more save points. Why would I want 2x performance in games I don't play?

And you can bet they are best case scenarios. Where is Metro Exodus?

RT and DLSS mean squat when the game doesn't support them. So the only thing it could potentially be very useful for is Cyberpunk, or you could just turn RT off of course.
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It's only a leak atm. More info will come.
If people are interested still in switching RT off then just maybe AMD's options will be better. I doubt they'll be as good at RT so pricing will likely make a good allowance for that.
RT will make huge leaps for a while (next generations of GPU) so we're still early days. People hopefully can save more £ by selecting other options if they don't feel like paying £ for current level of RT performance. Will be interesting to see what AMD bring to market.

Pricing is the key thing. Looking at those stats I'd struggle to see it being £1999 which is what I saw somewhere as a possible price, at least for the FE version. We know the pricing of non-FE GPU's can get a bit 'out there' especially :). That memory won't be cheap tho and 24Gb seems a tad extreme
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
First performance leak:
https://twitter.com/yuten0x/status/1300373469843120133?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1300373469843120133|twgr^&ref_url=https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ampere-next-gen-gaming-uarch-speculation-thread.2572510/page-122


Bencmark is with RTX and probably DLSS3.0 used.
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Well considering Control on my RTX 2080 with Ray Tracing (at 4K Ultra) can go as low as 10-12fps, a x2 performance jump still means it will be below 30fps and therefore still unplayable...
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
DDR4 is much slower than GDDR6,and PCs on average are stuck with SATA SSDs,or PCI-E 3.0 SSDs. The consoles have very fast RAM,and very fast SSDs,so the need to store large things in the memory is somewhat negated.
RAMdisks might help on PC,but even data transfers from system RAM to GPU VRAM,etc are going to have a giant bottleneck too. The PC will just have to brute force things.
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It is faster but the GPU also has a far wider bus and is more designed to moving lots of data which is what the GPU has to do and benefits most from.

CPU on the other hand VRAM is good and bad. It's faster but it also has horrendous latency in comparison to normal system memory. CPU benefits from better latency, gpu from more bandwidth. One reason i guess why the XSX has GPU and CPU optimal memory. Same can also be applied to nvme storage. All designed to do different things like comparing a tank to a ferrari.

Having a faster drive will help somewhat but its still substantially less responsive than memory. nvme works in milliseconds, vram/ram in nanoseconds.
 
Was there some compression tech meant to be included in the 3000 series that would help with VRAM usage? I thought I heard something about that a while back. However, if that was the case then why the **** would the 3090 need so much VRAM compared with the 3080?
 
FloppyPoppy said:
So a couple of questions that have probably been answered but im in a **** mood due to the below and thus i can't be ****** to look for them :mad:

I budget money quite strictly and don't like to deviate out of them. I had put £1500 to one side to order a 3090. Sadly one of the ways i put this money together aside from saving a little each week was selling a spare monitor on the members market. I have today found out that it has been smashed in transit and the courier is very unlikely to do anything about that. So i have refunded the buyer £160 that i have had to take out of my 3090 pot as to not mess with more important financial stuff. Hence the me not being happy.

I will be able to recover those funds by 13/9/20 so with that in mind.. Do we have any idea that indicates when pre orders will be up for the 3090 and secondly how little shelf stock will there be after those pre orders are put in. Am i going to need to wait a couple of months now to get my hands on one or should i still be able to get one relatively quickly?

Sorry for the rant it's been a **** month for me.
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Dude if ur on a budget why on earth are you even thinking about preordering a 3090? For all we know in a few months time there will be a range of options not least from Nvidia with something like a 3080Ti.

Seriously only do that if time is more precious than money.
 
SirPsychoZe0 said:
Was there some compression tech meant to be included in the 3000 series that would help with VRAM usage? I thought I heard something about that a while back. However, if that was the case then why the **** would the 3090 need so much VRAM compared with the 3080?
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ppl misunderstand, the compression tech is for bandwidth compensation. it won't do anything for the lack of vram.
 
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